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Hadoop Thought Leaders
Thought leaders discuss hadoop trends, news, analysis
John Furrier
#hadoop is about scaling out on commodity servers. Question is can enteprises scale the business model mindset of open data sharing? This is a shift in people and process not a tech issue
Shankaran Sitarama
This is where I have heard people think of a two-tier data strategy what I call first-class and second-class data strategy.
Rimpal Johal
I think open data sharing is the need of time and business should not mind it. Offcourse business should not be strong DPA enforced.
Shankaran Sitarama
less critical data on to #hadoop. but would love to hear problems in this approach / strategy
Crowd Captain
data sharing will be the norm in the near future. sharing data is power; many web scale companies are already doing this
John Furrier
@shankarsitarama I spoke with Tyler Bell @twbell at @Factual yesterday look at this company they are the platform for open data.
John Furrier
@shankarsitarama 1st class data is the active realtime data used in apps that needs to be "on hand". 3Par from @hpstorage has been a big winner in this kind of deployments
Tim Crawford
There is also a question about what they should do vs. others. Paradigm shift.
Rimpal Johal
I am planning to take CCAH exam soon, will this give me a edge in the Hadoop market?Is their any advise from experts to take CCAH(Hadoop Admin) exam?
CrowdFather
http://www.cloudera.com/content/cloudera/en/training/certification/ccah.html
Hadoop Admin CCAH
Providing the speed, scale, and centralized management you need to build an Enterprise Data Hub.
Rimpal Johal
Is their any specific book to refer which can assist in the exam preparation?
Rimpal Johal
I am PeopleSoft admin, can I venture into Hadoop Admin stream?
Crowd Captain
yes come on in this is open chat
CrowdFather
managing information on a system like peoplesoft is top concern so #hadoop brings ingestion of unstructured data a breeze; many collect data then act on it later
Shankaran Sitarama
I think it should be possible with some training. It is not rocket science, I can say that. :)
Rimpal Johal
Definitely I agree! I done some self study and it seems manageable to me.
Shankaran Sitarama
IMO it is that paradigm shift from structured data to unstructured data that is essential for success.
Prash Chan
Hadoop is big and getting bigger..! Will there be a day when Hadoop completely replace traditional Data Warehousing!? What are the chances?
John Furrier
I think that Hadoop will be a big standard and will eventually change datawarehouses like disk drives replaced tape. the innovation ontop of Hadoop will be the big thing imo
Shankaran Sitarama
I feel the key to hadoop success is the enablement of good analytics and powerful usecases
John Furrier
@microsoft is getting deeper into #bigdata http://gigaom.com/2014/04/15/microsoft-is-trying-to-be-the-platform-company-for-big-data-apps-too/ says @derrickharris at @gigaom
Microsoft is trying to be the platform company for big data apps, too
Microsoft showed off more its big data strategy on Tuesday in an event that touched on everything Excel to “ambient intelligence.” If the company can execute, it has a shot to repeat its desktop success in the data era.
CrowdFather
@siliconangle had @jeffreyfkelly weights in on @microsoft #bigdata play http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/04/15/the-data-economy-microsofts-cautious-big-data-vision/ when CEO was in SF last week
The Data Economy : Microsoft’s cautious Big Data vision | SiliconANGLE
The Data Economy is an analysis column by Wikibon Senior Analyst Jeff Kelly covering the business of Big Data.
Shankaran Sitarama
would love to hear thoughts about @microsoft move, what do you'll feel?
John Furrier
@cselland what are you hearing at @HPVertica about hadoop from a production standpoint? HP Vertica has been doing extremely well lately. Please share some data. thx
Chris Selland
we see Hadoop as highly complementary and integrate with all distros as you know. The customers that are successful are those who align their use case(s) with the right technology for the job
John Furrier
Question that comes up all the time: What's the difference between @cloudera and @hortonworks business model?
Pentaho
Came across this article & thought did a good job highlighting differentiators for Cloudera vs. @Hortonworks @Pivotal http://www.infoworld.com/t/hadoop/how-cloudera-plans-stand-out-the-hadoop-herd-240828
How Cloudera plans to stand out from the Hadoop herd
With so many folks expressing an interest in Hadoop, Cloudera sets itself apart via its business sense and open source savvy
John Furrier
@Pentaho saw that article they compared @cloudera to @gopivotal which paints cloudera as proprietary; Cloudera contributes way more to #hadoop than Pivotal by a long shot
John Furrier
Any thoughts Karmasphere getting purchased. Is consolidation on the horizon ? http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/04/23/fico-gobbles-up-hadoop-startup-karmasphere/
FICO gobbles up Hadoop startup Karmasphere | SiliconANGLE
A good few years into the Big Data revolution, the market is finally seeing some much-needed consolidation as the competitive swimming lanes begin to crystallize and those that are unable to keep up in the race either go out of business or end up get...
scott herson
Rumor on the streets is that although hadoop is hot, its very complex and hard to sell. Hence the limited revenue @ cloudera as it relates to the funding and valuation.
John Furrier
Hadoop is very important; yes i've heard it's hard to deal with but its early; hyperscale mkt is for companies with deep domain expertise; relying on services from vendors only really is working at POCs not full deployment if no experise
John Furrier
this is why training is so huge; like in openstack for cloud anyone with expertise is getting hired fast; the need is to abstract the complexities away from installing & running #hadoop
Shankaran Sitarama
I totally agree that training is key. by that i mean well designed trg that targets the specific complexities and builds skills in those areas
scott herson
Agree - early adoption is key, new logo capture. If Hadoop firms follow "land and expand" methodology and provide great service and support, growth will come naturally. The leading and progressive firms will create a competitive advantage for themselves
Shankaran Sitarama
I don't think generic training / courses of cloudera / hortonworks and even udacity, coursera etc. cut it.
scott herson
Where do you draw the lines in the ecosystem on where the hadoop firms compete or partner with the leading nosql firms ie Mongo, DataStax, Riak, etc...
John Furrier
Hadoop is not a rip n replace technology it works with lots of legacy and new vendor specific solutions; the line is where the use case is; it's a new model
John Furrier
this came up at the Percona Live event few weeks ago. Many see hadoop just as a data store nothing more; Some want more comprehensive solutions for low latency data at the app level
Shankaran Sitarama
I've heard people talk of "first class" data and hadoop being used for "second class" data. would love to hear comments / take on this?
Chris Selland
@furrier investors are interested in revolution but customers are more typically interested in evolution
John Furrier
The recent Intel news about @cloudera represents the largest investment by Intel in the history of their company. Thoughts on this move?
CrowdFather
$900 million investment; Cloudera disclosed that $540 million went to the company $360 paid out investors
John Furrier
Pure Storage another Greylock company raised huge round 225m indicates that Cloudera is playing the long game to stay true to their vision of building a disruptive platform; time to bake it out is key to their future; 500m in working capital nice
Crowd Captain
the old saying is "its hard to go out of business with money in the bank" boy they are really struggling - not