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Hear some reactions about the big topics of discussion coming out of OpenStack Summit Vancouver
   5 years ago
#openEMCTalking A Ton About KiloExclusive Chat with OpenStack PTLs before the Kilo Project April 30th release.
Mo Khalid
Lets start the conversation first question to the panel : What were some of the key observations that you folks had from the summit around customer participation, partnerships among vendors?
Eglė Sigler
lots and lots of talk about DefCore. In working sessions, we had people from a lot of OpenStack companies asking questions about interop and certifying.
Jesse Proudman
We're finally over the question of "Where is the enterprise adoption?" or "Does OpenStack work at scale?" Phenomenal keynotes.
Mo Khalid
@eglute can you comment on the interoperability and the work that defcore has been doing
Ashok Bhojwani
Interop was one of my biggest takeaways from the Summit. This is huge for Customers. Will overcome the Customer hesitation on adoption of #OpenStack
Shamail Tahir
Completely agree @blueboxjesse... I really liked the user centric keynotes and the new "user stories" breakout track. Any keynote session that stuck out in particular for you?
Jesse Proudman
@ShamailXD The PayPal keynote 100%. Raw #s on their deployment are hugely impressive.
Jesse Proudman
That said, OpenStack is still hard to operate. Customers DIYing need huge teams. Vendors selling software distros aren't ideal. There was huge buzz around managed OpenStack in Vancouver.
Sriram Subramanian
Comcast were equally impressive. more than 600 apps in prod
Eglė Sigler
DefCore has been in the works for over two years, and I joined as Co-Chair at the beginning of the year. The work that has gone in it is phenomenal, getting majority consensus on what the spec for OpenStack should be is hard!
Tyler Britten
@blueboxjesse There's definitely a lag with today's infrastructure engineers and the skills needed for OpenStack
Vibhu
Still lots of confusion on what OpenStack is. Alternative to Amazon or alternative to VMware
Sean Winn
I loved seeing all of the sessions where service providers and very large potential use cases are now looking to leverage OpenStack in their move toward next generation telecommunications networks. It's a huge validation for us.
Shamail Tahir
@sriramhere True Cloud Don! Congrats to that team on the Superuser award as well. They do a lot in the community.
Mo Khalid
@blueboxjesse you nailed it as day two operations is still challenging what can the community do
Sean Winn
Was also really great to hear from huge customers like Walmart Labs validating on their use case during the holiday season, as well as Paypal saying they now run 100% on OpenStack and play to do the same at eBay.
Shamail Tahir
@eglute Kudos to the DefCore team on the work that has been done so far! Onwards and Upwards to the 'Flags' planning cycle.
Eglė Sigler
interop is something that we will keep talking about, and DefCore will continue solving for it.
Eglė Sigler
@ShamailXD Flag cycle is right! we had too many flagged tests in the first round of DefCore certifications.
Sriram Subramanian
Another big signal from keynote is #OpenStack is not shy to adopting seemingly competing tech. Containers were shown lot of love, Google on keynote!
Ashok Bhojwani
@vmtyler @blueboxjesse - Is the #OpenStack Training project not mature enough to be adopted by organizations. Pros-Cons?
Sean Winn
@ShamailXD They even gave their free passes for Tokyo to the Women in OpenStack group - in less than a 2 hour turnaround!
Shamail Tahir
@sriramhere Ahem... complimentary, not competing. Right? ;)
Shamail Tahir
@seanmwinn Did not realize that, really cool!
Tyler Britten
@abhojwani no the problem is a lack of prerequisite skills (python, etc). Too many next-next-done wizard engineers in enterprise infra today
Shamail Tahir
@vmtyler @abhojwani Pre-req skill along with courses focused o n how to operate versus how to consume.
Sean Winn
@abhojwani The project definitely needs more contributors to be able to deliver fully on its intended goals. That said, it's a very excellent starting point. A majority of the content was donated by Aptira for initial consumption but there's more to do...
Tyler Britten
@ShamailXD If you need a course to learn how to consume it, then the project as a whole is a failure :-)
Phil Edwards
@bvibhu Was this confusion addressed at Vancouver?
Vibhu
No in my opinion
Vibhu
@bvibhu Infact the alternative to VMware is current focus from most of the vendors.
Mo Khalid
What focus areas do you see (or would like to see) for Liberty as OpenStack matures to another release ?
Sriram Subramanian
Operations, Stable Core
Sean Winn
Better coordination across projects to deliver features and functionality that are critical to specific use cases - both horizontally and vertically.
Sriram Subramanian
Newer projects are welcome, but we need more stability, maturity and scale. Treat Ops as project
Sean Winn
I would also love to see other projects which use third party plugins to follow suit of Neutron and decompose the plugins and extensions from the core services. This is good for both the community and the vendor ecosystem.
Shamail Tahir
Better feedback loops. This will let requirements bubble up and reach audiences that can do something about them.
Ashok Bhojwani
Improvements in the Neutron project!
Tyler Britten
@abhojwani a replacement for the neutron project #FTFY
Shamail Tahir
@abhojwani The nova-network/neutron work is a good start. I think a lot of eyes are on that one. / cc @vmtyler
Ashok Bhojwani
More focus on Day 2 Operations, vs adding newer projects.
Jesse Proudman
Consistency in operational characteristics from project to project. Naming config parameters the same, driving consistency in logging formats, etc...
Sriram Subramanian
@blueboxjesse submit bp man. very specific for crowdchat :)
Shamail Tahir
@blueboxjesse Oops, here is what I really meant to plug (as an initiative): https://wiki.opensta...
Eglė Sigler
i think federation is something that needs to be properly addressed. Not only at identity level, but also at network, glance, etc level. It should be treated as its own cross-functional project.
Sean Winn
@eglute Federation is just a first step, we need to be able to discern backend services, available SLAs, redundancy and lots more.
Eglė Sigler
@seanmwinn agreed! Scale is a big issue as well.
Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
We are still missing proven reference architectures that map 2 different use cases, such as large scale general purpose cloud vs. HPC clouds.
Mo Khalid
@hui_kenneth agree would like to see something like AWS Architecture center