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Hybrid Cloud
The Power and Promise of Hybrid Cloud.
   6 years ago
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IBM Cloud
Is hybrid a fad? Will we still be discussing hybrid environments in 5 years?
Rich Miller
Not a 'fad'. And, yes, we'll probably be talking about hybrid cloud in 5 years, but for different reasons.
John Furrier
No way it's the natural progression for the new IT and business applications that are and will be built
Rich Miller
As security & data governance generally is accepted in the cloud, the decision as to where the best storage venture and the best workload execution venue will want to be a late-binding decision.
Michael J Dorosh
Definitely not a fad, in fact, the most likely defacto model.
IBM Cloud
@rhm2k What reasons do you foresee, Rich?
John Furrier
@rhm2k AWS announcement today about Germany availability zone is proof the global consumption of cloud (data) is complicated but it's happening
Adam Wray
Agreed, not a fad, but I'd bet the buzz words morph over time to incorporate more subtleties, such as on premise, public or SaaS environments vs generality
Duncan Johnston-Watt
Definitely not a fad unless you see enterprise adoption of a cloud as a fad!
Michael J Dorosh
@adamjwray Yeah, on prem, pub, hosted private, SaaS.
Rich Miller
Hybrid is a 'fashion statement'. It's really about how we'll need to compose cloud-based applications in the future.
Rich Miller
Sorry. That should be: Hybrid is NOT a 'fashion statement.'
Duncan Johnston-Watt
5 years out we'll simply tap into cloud for whatever we need - hybrid will be seamless foundation
Mike Onsing
I'm in the marketing business and all the great apps are SaaS based so cloud is the best infrastructure to run new apps on
Duncan Johnston-Watt
In other words our job as enablers is to provide right level of abstraction - we are at the start of this journey
Mike Onsing
To me the business model of cloud is key because it allows for the freemium land and expand value prop. I (my customers) don't overpay for tech they aren't using. Buy as you grow is very compelling for me and customers
Kelly Meade
hybrid cloud is definitely not a fad--but in 5 years it will just be a natural progression/way of doing biz so no need to talk specifically about it
John Furrier
SaaS based anything is a winner bc you can turn it off if it doesn't work; reduces the risk; IT is more complicated in that there are compliance issues
Duncan Johnston-Watt
final thought on hybrid - He must, so to speak, throw away the ladder after he has climbed up it. Wittgenstein
Shubham Anand
we wont be talking about it.. but that doesn't mean hybrid would phase out but then.. it will still be the model in use however the abstraction in technology would not talk about such very common elements of infrastructure/ computing.
IBM Cloud
What security concerns are unique to a hybrid cloud environment?
Rich Miller
Data exposure (intentional and UNintentional), and its management (who has the keys!!??),
Adam Wray
data regulatory big one
Michael J Dorosh
I think it is the same for all IT -The more recent breaches have been in traditional data centers,
Adam Wray
@mjdblue agree, but compounded when your handling multiple env.
John Furrier
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Shubham Anand
what goes in private cloud of the hybrid model keeps the security intact. security lies in designing the model around how the data would communicate between the private and public sites.
Micro Strategies Inc
Have security on all nodes (whether on the customer site and the remote site), on the network perimeter and the core. Ensure that there are multi-layered defenses
Rich Miller
@mjdblue The addition of distribution of management responsibility, certainly adds complexity to security concerns … who can see / can't see what; who holds the keys: etc.
Duncan Johnston-Watt
If we are focusing on hybrid as on-ramp then this is the area of greatest concern as contrary to received wisdom (wrong of course) enterprises are more vulnerable than public cloud providers IMO
Michael J Dorosh
@rhm2k @adamjwray Agreed, but this has been the same since the web hosting days.
Rich Miller
@duncanjw < Agreed. In hybrid cloud, there is distinct, disparate responsibility for management of all kinds. If ONE of the parties (e.g. the enterprise) has mis-configured, made a mistake, everyone (i.e. the service provider) suffers.
John Furrier
are we all in agreement that perimeter based security is dying fast?
IBM Cloud
OK, first question: How do you define hybrid cloud?
Rich Miller
An infrastructure or platform topology in which there exist two or more distinct organizations taking management responsibility for (their) portion of the foundational technology.
Michael J Dorosh
Hybrid Cloud is the best of public and private cloud, allowing the right solution for the workload!
Adam Wray
try again, hybrid = distributed workloads
Duncan Johnston-Watt
Hybrid is an any-2-any cloud environment
Jerry Overton
any-2-any...what does that mean?
Dan Hushon
hetrogenous in some dimension...
Duncan Johnston-Watt
In many cases hybrid is a cloud on-ramp for enterprises
Dan Hushon
so public|private aws|azure vmware|openstack
Marin Debelic
On-premise Cloud + Off-premise Cloud + something to glue them together.
DanLucky
I have implemented a Hybrid Cloud over the past 3 years.
What would you like to know?
Michael J Dorosh
So where are the pain points and what works?
Rich Miller
< What worked? What was the most painful?
John Furrier
Did you acheive your objective, expensive?, people like doing it? is it positioned to build value? love to hear your experiences
Adam Wray
@furrier need to drop the #GoRoyals btw...;)
Mike Onsing
@adamjwray @furrier I got carried away last night watching the game can't wait for the games 3-5 so depressing my boys got spanked
Amy Hermes
Did we REALLY just make the leap from hybrid cloud to baseball?
John Furrier
@adamjwray the @sfgiants handle did the something similar so I copied them and threw the Cube in there for kicks @mikeonsing Giants will win. KC will have hard time that is unless pitching steps up like gm 2
John Furrier
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John Furrier
@amyhermes baseball is apple pie and cloud
Adam Wray
@furrier I like our chances w/ our closing 3, all over 100mphs - kind of like #cloud
John Furrier
@adamjwray after game one I was like KC will fold then after that amazing pitching last night they might just run the table. Great rebound for them props to your team
Michael J Dorosh
@duncanjw Baseball is cricket that lasts less that a day.
Adam Wray
@furrier game3 will be fun to watch; anyones game