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A bit beyond to the NIST definitions, Forrester considers an pay-per-use, OPEX oriented resource model as cloud computing.

For sure there are the classical resource types, Infrastructure/IaaS, Platforms/PaaS, and Software Applications/SaaS

They replace traditional hardware, integrated platforms compontents, or business processes.

But it's important to embrace the comsumption based or user subscription based model.

- we all know what the NIST definitions are, but there's still a view IMHO that it's on one hand "outsourcing" and on the other hand a complete transformation of process & implementation / deployment, esp. DevOps et al.

Jean Paul Sigwalt

thanks that's clear, but how does hybrid then fit into the definition?

- I'm strongly of the view that we're still 5 years away from a realistic "utility" model, companies with 2 to 3 years of life in on-prem leased or capex write downs are not shifting before they have to..

Radu Crahmaliuc, 2401+, ☁, PhD, MSc.

From practice I see is important to ask about general perception about cloud, before any other discussion or presentation

yes, coming to this in a minute

If you have virtualized on-prem data center, but still charge the business in a CAPEX model, its not a cloud at all.

Radu Crahmaliuc, 2401+, ☁, PhD, MSc.

The most clear example I'm using explaining the utility means of the Cloud is TV-Cable service

- surely one of the greatest impacts is Shadow IT and the shift from CIO's to CMO / CFO roles making what were IT decisions by focusing on "services" across the board?

@dez_blanchfield yes, 2nd dimension is the privacy level with variations: Private-on-prem, private at provider, virtual private, public highly shared

- on the whole GOVT. isn't ready to deal with a Utility "pay as you go" model as they are all too oft locked into "fixed price" contract models.. which don't suit Cloud of course.

- PayTV aka Cable TV ( in USA speak ) is a perfect example.. Water, Power, "subscription" services etc..

@dez_blanchfield Yes, I agree Shadow IT is driving the pace of change. Often way ahead of IT decisions on cloud

Public, Hybrid, Private, Off Prem. No one is better than the other. Each type of cloud serves a business purpose and has a reason to 'live'.

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- privacy / security et al shouldn't actually change per se regardless of "where" you deploy, you gain more flexibility but on-prem / colo / data centre / "cloud" - the business risks remain the same.

@dez_blanchfield Governments in CEE have got cloud on the agenda, but more often as a Internal cloud provider in my experience

Ewa Zborowska

@DavidmHolliday but they often lack administrative tools to run internal clouds and need to deal with that

Radu Crahmaliuc, 2401+, ☁, PhD, MSc.

@DavidmHolliday Between Agenda and Reality it is a Long running distance@

@Ewa Zborowska @Radu Crahmaliuc Can be too focused on Technology, but that can be the easy part:)

- cloud in Government is a tough one, but if you look at the New South Wales ( NSW ) state here in Australia we're smashing it out of the ball park with OpenData, Apps4Gov, and Cloud First.. look into it ( email me for more info )..

- http://data.nsw.gov....

apps4nsw | NSW Open Data Portal
apps4nsw is a program of events to encourage the use of NSW Government data to create innovative web and mobile applications (apps). apps4nsw was the first State Government apps competition in Australia. The objective of the apps4nsw competition was ...

I prefer govt focus on: What services should we offer: How can we support Innovation and growth? Effective services? Open govt?

- https://www.opengov....

- https://sdi.nsw.gov....

- http://data.nsw.gov....

- check out Dom P our Minster for Finance and ITC.. he's litterally a govt. rock star - https://www.youtube....

Stefan Ried13

Cloud 2015 and beyond http://www.via-cc.at...

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I see Enterprises in EU are starting to ask 'When can I start?' rather than 'How do I get started?'. The need for speed will increase in 2015.

Forrester published a 2015 cloud prediction report recently: http://t.co/Qes1UQdL...

http://forr.com/1CeMhLg

2015 trend: IT will organize or broker cloud consumption

2015 trend: Your back-office applications will begin to expose REST APIs

2015 trend: There will be security incidents in 2015 - but its mostly the use fault and less the provider fault.

2015 trend: Docker containers will radically accelerate enterprise app delivery

2015 trend: Hybrid management will mature to offer devops full access

2015 trend: Europe will expand the provider-managed private cloud (eg. OPENSTACK on prem), but it's declining in the US

2015 trend: SaaS will expand and become industry vertical specific.

2015 trend: PaaS will expand and be available in multiple deployments.

2015 trend: The price war between Amazon and Google continues

Move applications to #Cloud and take advantage of cloud is a strategy

I see Enterprises in EU asking 3 important cloud questions 1) How do I connect my clouds?

Enterprises in EU ask 3 important cloud questions 2) How do I make my legacy data available for my mobile apps...with speed?

Enterprises in EU ask 3 important cloud questions 3) How do I streamline service management processes across multiple clouds?

Paul Are A Killie10

Will technology support business or will it shift and start drive business?

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Molnica

I have seen to many technology projects not deliver business value

Molnica

Cloud can drive business but there must be a shift

- technology is already "the business" Molnica, google the phrase "era of smart" ;-)

- https://www-07.ibm.c...

IBM - Smarter Planet - Era of Smart - Overview - Australia
Era of smart: A profound change is reshaping the global economy, reinventing societies and impacting the competitiveness of nations including Australia.

Europe differ from US where technology is a business driver

Molnica

@dez_blanchfield agree but many Cloud projects are just seen as technology projects

correct but the potential is to use it for business scale

- what you need to aim for is a shift from thinking of technology as being separate to business, it is not, it's just another "enabler", like a phone or printer, car / truck etc, technology is not disconnected from business, if it is you fail.

Jean Paul Sigwalt

many CxO still do not understand enough technology to envision the positive impact for their business. That's a big inhibitor, and a great opportunity for service providers and consultants!

Yes and many CIO do not understand business and stick to produce and not consume dataresources