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SAP & EMC Thought Leaders
EMC & SAP thought leaders discuss SAP Big Data on EMC – including deployments happening in real-time
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Antonio F.
My key question on big data is whether the most important asset is the data in itself or the conclusions you draw out of it. This leads me to some concerns regarding the cost managing that data and whether it would kill the business case.
Christoph Streubert
great question!!! Its the iinsight of big data not the data in itself that provides the value of big data
Mike Harding on HANA
Bringing in old school architectural elements, the Technology is there, but the People and Process need to drive it!
John Furrier
cart before the horse.. data is the new asset ..all kinds of data..that is why the #industrialinternet from #GE and #Pivotal are interesting to me - all devices connected throw off data #iot
Christoph Streubert True - but the value is what you can do with it - no the data itself
Jeff Kelly
cost implications of storing data in HDFS are low, meaning data storage is no longer a barrier to #bigdata biz case in most cases. but there are still questions around governance, high availability and security.
Antonio F. that is the point. the reality i see in most enterprises is that they are not that good in governance, and that leads to enormous amounts of "garbage" data being stored. Is this a part of the discussion in existing big data projects?
Antonio F.
so, considering life cycle management right from the start is a critical part of considering a big data strategy, right?
Chris Ritter
the insight from the data is the key. Making technology work in concert with the data sets or a "data lake" keeps the costs down. @EMCSAP building platforms that deliver enterprise scale for analytics.
Christoph Streubert
Two things are important about your question - the right architecture to facilitate federated access and the right skills/tools to gain insight
Christoph Streubert
a lot of bad data really fast - is still bad data - data governance, cleansing and master data will become even more important
Antonio F. i do believe that governance, and basic IT operations management processes will be a key aspect in sustaining the business cases around big data
Sylvie Otten (Sollod
@putitonhana Where does #EMCIT see #HANA a couple of years from now? #EMC has it as a sidecar today...what's the future?
Henrik Wagner
How do you build out your journey to get to Business Suit on HANA?@putitonHANA
Mike Harding on HANA
Full Business Suite on HANA, consolidating all #SAP applications onto #HANA Platform. Enable streamlined Big Data analytics... And build your own Virtual #HANA or put it in the #Cloud
Sylvie Otten (Sollod But this is a crawl, walk, run? no?
Ryan Arsenault
You can't argue with numbers. EMC's business today can make real time decisions that would take up to two hours without #HANA. They've had the appetizer and now demand more!
Henrik Wagner
@putitonHANA Is your organization and people ready to support the acceleration of the journey?
Mike Harding on HANA
Well, Sidecar is letting us run already. Full Suite on HANA will be flying... Concorde style!
Sylvie Otten (Sollod Concorde style?? Yikes!
Mike Harding on HANA
Customers need to start thinking about COE building for enabling #HANA. Skills development is a cornerstone to ROI
Ryan Arsenault #SAP going to help there. Integrated ABAP/sqlScript IDE making unleashing the power of #HANA easier. IT Organizations need to start now though!
amit sinha
I would say #HANA & #Hadoop, idea is to make sense and then within window of opportunity personalize it on the fly - consumer shopping, personalized health, connected car all examples of the same pattern
Henrik Wagner
where does Sybase IQ fit in?
Christoph Streubert SYbaseIQ offers increadibly fast loading capabilities and provides a great addition to a big data design together with #HANA
Christoph Streubert imagine HOT (smaller amount of data) in HANA --> less cost. warm data (larger amount of data) in Sybase IQ
Christoph Streubert Some industries really like SYbase IQ for its very fast loading capabilities
Antonio F. my take is that cost wise, for structured data, HANA will not fit the business case. Customers I met, consider HANA for "last year" and all the rest in Sybase. The critical aspect for realtime decision making is really operational reporting
Crowd Captain
Is Hana the right engine for all big data apps?
Sylvie Otten (Sollod As of SP7 yes, #HANA will be the right engine, and SP8 there will be even more functionality and stability to solidify it as a platform. Right @putitonhana?
Christoph Streubert I dont think #HANA is the right place for any data - custoemrs want to focus their investment on the most important data
Antonio F. in the end all goes to economical decisions. If HANA is the area the company has most knowledge, and is the most easily manageable technology, then I think HANA could be it. But just as an integration engine, and holding only most recent data
Sylvie Otten (Sollod
How do you take structured & unstructured data from HANA to Hadoop and have the ability to access & query data in a federated fashion from both simultaneously?
Christoph Streubert
i hear a lot of folks also wondering if the can pursue a big data strategy without #hadoop and only #SQL skills - do you hear that too?
Mike Harding on HANA
Mmm, setting the foundation for the 'Internet of things'?
Henrik Wagner
How will Cloud (Off-premise deployment models) affect customers Big Data initiatives? @vijayasankarv #SAPTechEd
amit sinha
I think it will start with virtual private clouds, then purpose built big data clouds (e.g. in healthcare) will come
John Furrier agree; + another factor driving is control; full control ($$$$) vs no control (free) and everything in between
EMC SAP Do virtual private cloud need multi-tenancy? if you vote yes, why?
Antonio F. in this case, if you consider TAC imaging and other image based data like this, the regulation is huge. Do you see public clouds coping with such requirements in the next couple of years? I do not...
John Furrier
it will impact the security SLA for sure esp if apps are tied to on-prem SLA; but off prem will look like on-prem deployment according to many CIOs I speak with
Henrik Wagner
Virtual Private Cloud for SAP is what we also see from our client based as the first phase in a Off-premise Cloud deployment
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Current news trends aside, data sovereignty was always important consideration
Crowd Captain great to see you on today's #crowdchat
Vijay Vijayasankar
on prem is not going away. SAP is committed to making our big data solns work in cloud and on prem
Christoph Streubert that wont work for every customer and all data though - I think we will still see on prem components mixed with cloud solutions
Henrik Wagner
@vijayasankarv What about hybrid models?
Antonio F.
I do see off perm as a real possibility for "non regulated" and non "business secret" related info. For the rest, I think that i at the most a "managed private cloud" will be the way.
Christoph Streubert
Amit - i hear often also that #hadoop may not be in the sweetspot of knowhow for many - hoping to address big data with #SQL based solutions - do you hear that too?
amit sinha
> skills for hire and keeping track of updates is getting easier now that Hortenworks and Intel distros are OEMed alongside #HANA
Mike Harding on HANA
Also a need for data scientists to set the governance models
Jeff Kelly
#hadoop is just part of the #bigdata equation - #SQL plays an important role, but so do NoSQL DBs, data visualization tools and end-user apps
Henrik Wagner
Will you truly be able to do Federated Queries across multiple data sources?
John Furrier
RT @AirSomers .@vsikka keynote in a simplified graphic. Awesome! #SAPTechEd http://t.co/Ixdgu1uYd6
John Furrier
via @airsomers thx http://twitter.com/AirSomers/status/393077091471597568
AirSomers
RT @thezhu: .@vsikka keynote in a simplified graphic. Awesome! #SAPTechEd http://t.co/Ixdgu1uYd6
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Christoph Streubert easy to do in a graphic - getting there will take time for most customers - adoption never moves at the rate of invention
Henrik Wagner
I thought Vishal's keynote did a great job communicating the lager platforms story with new Business Applications being built faster
Leon Reznick
How we can get #Quants to be involved in #BigData? #HANA #SAPtechEd
Crowd Captain
Love this question bc it's the early days and this is the new hot job market.. everyone needs to be skilled in #datascience imho
Henrik Wagner
Leon, what's your thoughts on this topic?
amit sinha
> stop calling them data scientists, I like #datageeks, there is a certain amount of informality to do it
Crowd Captain finally someone said it.. i agree totally..
Leon Reznick #WallStreet called them #Quants and they like it
John Furrier
This is a great topic worth exploring in great detail. Leon ping me on LinkedIn or message me via CrowdMail -on my CrowdSpot profile
Henrik Wagner
Huge focus from #SAP on big data at #SAPTeched. What's does it mean for existing SAP clients?
Mike Harding on HANA
Capabilities to enable virtualization of data / query federation across #SAP and non-SAP data sources. Don't replicate it - virtualize it!
John Furrier how many people are actively virtualizing Hana?
Chris Ritter
Leveraging these technologies means an order of magnitude increase in analytic possibilities while still being fiscally responsible to the organization.
Sylvie Otten (Sollod
Yesterday Vishal Sikka talked about transformation where Cloud & Big Data are converging - HANA will be the platform for all. Thoughts?
John Furrier
big data is driving change but the real story is Enterprise Cloud. The technology under the hood powers big data and future applications.
Sylvie Otten (Sollod VBLOCK's ability to scale makes federated search capabilities highly available and cost effective.
John Furrier
I would also say that the #SDDC movement is about redefining the #datacenter for apps not just rack n stack
Henrik Wagner
Will the VCE Vblock architecture expand to handle all Big Data customer requirements for Hot, Warm and Cold data?
John Furrier
BMW makes one engine for multiple models types of cars..so is Hana similar or just one model #scalable ?
John Furrier
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Crowd Captain
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John Furrier
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Henrik Wagner
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