sapteched

great question!!! Its the iinsight of big data not the data in itself that provides the value of big data

Bringing in old school architectural elements, the Technology is there, but the People and Process need to drive it!

cart before the horse.. data is the new asset ..all kinds of data..that is why the #industrialinternet from #GE and #Pivotal are interesting to me - all devices connected throw off data #iot

Christoph Streubert True - but the value is what you can do with it - no the data itself

Jeff Kelly

cost implications of storing data in HDFS are low, meaning data storage is no longer a barrier to #bigdata biz case in most cases. but there are still questions around governance, high availability and security.

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Antonio F. that is the point. the reality i see in most enterprises is that they are not that good in governance, and that leads to enormous amounts of "garbage" data being stored. Is this a part of the discussion in existing big data projects?

Antonio F.

so, considering life cycle management right from the start is a critical part of considering a big data strategy, right?

Chris Ritter

the insight from the data is the key. Making technology work in concert with the data sets or a "data lake" keeps the costs down. @EMCSAP building platforms that deliver enterprise scale for analytics.

Two things are important about your question - the right architecture to facilitate federated access and the right skills/tools to gain insight

a lot of bad data really fast - is still bad data - data governance, cleansing and master data will become even more important

Antonio F. i do believe that governance, and basic IT operations management processes will be a key aspect in sustaining the business cases around big data

Sylvie Otten (Sollod17

@putitonhana Where does #EMCIT see #HANA a couple of years from now? #EMC has it as a sidecar today...what's the future?

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How do you build out your journey to get to Business Suit on HANA?@putitonHANA

Full Business Suite on HANA, consolidating all #SAP applications onto #HANA Platform. Enable streamlined Big Data analytics... And build your own Virtual #HANA or put it in the #Cloud

Sylvie Otten (Sollod But this is a crawl, walk, run? no?

Ryan Arsenault

You can't argue with numbers. EMC's business today can make real time decisions that would take up to two hours without #HANA. They've had the appetizer and now demand more!

@putitonHANA Is your organization and people ready to support the acceleration of the journey?

Well, Sidecar is letting us run already. Full Suite on HANA will be flying... Concorde style!

Sylvie Otten (Sollod Concorde style?? Yikes!

Customers need to start thinking about COE building for enabling #HANA. Skills development is a cornerstone to ROI

Ryan Arsenault #SAP going to help there. Integrated ABAP/sqlScript IDE making unleashing the power of #HANA easier. IT Organizations need to start now though!

amit sinha16

I would say #HANA & #Hadoop, idea is to make sense and then within window of opportunity personalize it on the fly - consumer shopping, personalized health, connected car all examples of the same pattern

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where does Sybase IQ fit in?

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Christoph Streubert SYbaseIQ offers increadibly fast loading capabilities and provides a great addition to a big data design together with #HANA

Christoph Streubert imagine HOT (smaller amount of data) in HANA --> less cost. warm data (larger amount of data) in Sybase IQ

Christoph Streubert Some industries really like SYbase IQ for its very fast loading capabilities

Christoph Streubert Did you know SYbase broke another record loading data at 34.5TB per hour??? http://www.news-sap.com/sap-sybase-iq-software-smashes-previous-results-and-sets-world-record-for-fastest-loading-of-big-data/

Antonio F. my take is that cost wise, for structured data, HANA will not fit the business case. Customers I met, consider HANA for "last year" and all the rest in Sybase. The critical aspect for realtime decision making is really operational reporting

Crowd Captain

Is Hana the right engine for all big data apps?

Sylvie Otten (Sollod As of SP7 yes, #HANA will be the right engine, and SP8 there will be even more functionality and stability to solidify it as a platform. Right @putitonhana?

Christoph Streubert I dont think #HANA is the right place for any data - custoemrs want to focus their investment on the most important data

Antonio F. in the end all goes to economical decisions. If HANA is the area the company has most knowledge, and is the most easily manageable technology, then I think HANA could be it. But just as an integration engine, and holding only most recent data

Sylvie Otten (Sollod

How do you take structured & unstructured data from HANA to Hadoop and have the ability to access & query data in a federated fashion from both simultaneously?

i hear a lot of folks also wondering if the can pursue a big data strategy without #hadoop and only #SQL skills - do you hear that too?

Mmm, setting the foundation for the 'Internet of things'?

Henrik Wagner14

How will Cloud (Off-premise deployment models) affect customers Big Data initiatives? @vijayasankarv #SAPTechEd

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amit sinha

I think it will start with virtual private clouds, then purpose built big data clouds (e.g. in healthcare) will come

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John Furrier agree; + another factor driving is control; full control ($$$$) vs no control (free) and everything in between

EMC SAP Do virtual private cloud need multi-tenancy? if you vote yes, why?

Antonio F. in this case, if you consider TAC imaging and other image based data like this, the regulation is huge. Do you see public clouds coping with such requirements in the next couple of years? I do not...

it will impact the security SLA for sure esp if apps are tied to on-prem SLA; but off prem will look like on-prem deployment according to many CIOs I speak with

Virtual Private Cloud for SAP is what we also see from our client based as the first phase in a Off-premise Cloud deployment

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

Current news trends aside, data sovereignty was always important consideration

Crowd Captain great to see you on today's #crowdchat

Vijay Vijayasankar

on prem is not going away. SAP is committed to making our big data solns work in cloud and on prem

Christoph Streubert that wont work for every customer and all data though - I think we will still see on prem components mixed with cloud solutions

@vijayasankarv What about hybrid models?

Antonio F.

I do see off perm as a real possibility for "non regulated" and non "business secret" related info. For the rest, I think that i at the most a "managed private cloud" will be the way.

Christoph Streubert8

Amit - i hear often also that #hadoop may not be in the sweetspot of knowhow for many - hoping to address big data with #SQL based solutions - do you hear that too?

amit sinha

> skills for hire and keeping track of updates is getting easier now that Hortenworks and Intel distros are OEMed alongside #HANA

Also a need for data scientists to set the governance models

Jeff Kelly

#hadoop is just part of the #bigdata equation - #SQL plays an important role, but so do NoSQL DBs, data visualization tools and end-user apps

Will you truly be able to do Federated Queries across multiple data sources?

John Furrier6

RT @AirSomers .@vsikka keynote in a simplified graphic. Awesome! #SAPTechEd http://t.co/Ixdgu1uYd6

via @airsomers thx http://twitter.com/AirSomers/status/393077091471597568

AirSomers

RT @thezhu: .@vsikka keynote in a simplified graphic. Awesome! #SAPTechEd http://t.co/Ixdgu1uYd6

2 minutes ago

View it on Twitter

Christoph Streubert easy to do in a graphic - getting there will take time for most customers - adoption never moves at the rate of invention

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I thought Vishal's keynote did a great job communicating the lager platforms story with new Business Applications being built faster

Leon Reznick6

How we can get #Quants to be involved in #BigData? #HANA #SAPtechEd

Crowd Captain

Love this question bc it's the early days and this is the new hot job market.. everyone needs to be skilled in #datascience imho

Leon, what's your thoughts on this topic?

amit sinha

> stop calling them data scientists, I like #datageeks, there is a certain amount of informality to do it

Crowd Captain finally someone said it.. i agree totally..

Leon Reznick #WallStreet called them #Quants and they like it

This is a great topic worth exploring in great detail. Leon ping me on LinkedIn or message me via CrowdMail -on my CrowdSpot profile

Henrik Wagner6

Huge focus from #SAP on big data at #SAPTeched. What's does it mean for existing SAP clients?

Capabilities to enable virtualization of data / query federation across #SAP and non-SAP data sources. Don't replicate it - virtualize it!

John Furrier how many people are actively virtualizing Hana?

Chris Ritter

Leveraging these technologies means an order of magnitude increase in analytic possibilities while still being fiscally responsible to the organization.

Sylvie Otten (Sollod6

Yesterday Vishal Sikka talked about transformation where Cloud & Big Data are converging - HANA will be the platform for all. Thoughts?

big data is driving change but the real story is Enterprise Cloud. The technology under the hood powers big data and future applications.

Sylvie Otten (Sollod VBLOCK's ability to scale makes federated search capabilities highly available and cost effective.

I would also say that the #SDDC movement is about redefining the #datacenter for apps not just rack n stack

Will the VCE Vblock architecture expand to handle all Big Data customer requirements for Hot, Warm and Cold data?

BMW makes one engine for multiple models types of cars..so is Hana similar or just one model #scalable ?

John Furrier6

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Crowd Captain

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