horizon6

Licensing is something I was trying to figure out.

Mark Fermin

yeah, either I missed it or there wasn't a lot of detail around it.

Wonder how this will impact windows licensing.

dscriven

Yes there is http://www.vmware.com/products/horizon-view/pricing.html

Buy VMware Horizon (with View) Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution | United States
Buy VMware Horizon (with View) available in three editions – Standard, Advanced and Enterprise.

TS Cals required for App demoting, normal arrangements for desktop VDA/TS Cal for Windows 7 or 8/ Windows 2008 R2

4 Votes Vote

its 250 CCU for the basic, 400 for advanced and I forget for the premium

Petri Rantanen

Just remember RDS(TS) cals are per User or Device, no CCU

3 Votes Vote

@petrirantanen yeah but at least it's not like VDA !

I'm just happy that have a per user and its not tied to the device

and in case your interested here is a video I shot comparing RDS to VDA license: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zl4Zot8a3Q

Comparing RDS to VDA License
Overview of RDS and VDA

4 Votes Vote

Petri Rantanen

I'm trying to stay away of VDA licensing, even MS can't tell how do it right in real world

John Furrier14

Is VDI set to emerge from niche to mainstream?

Crowd Captain

will it be SaaS or not? With windows XP going away how does VMware explain to IT mgrs that this is sustainable?

over here VDI has been mainstream for a while, I've been implementing VDI for over 5 years now.

I try to convince customers they don't need it but that's like talking to my wife....they just want it

Rob - at what point were you able to guarantee a true desktop-like experience w/ VDI - what/when was the breakthrough?

@robbeekmans I hear the pain points are very real and it just seems that it's been the "year of VDI" for 4 years. The stack is evolving and maturing

The pain points are very real but that's mostly because everyone expects a Donkervoort and when they wake up it's just an Renault. Expectations are to high, marketing is working to well

only real thing hurting VDI now is VDI #fixvdi

@Shmern #fixvda not fixvdi :)

Scott D. Lowe

I think VDI will be mainstream... eventually. But not as a big "to do" with a celebration. Naturally occurring over time.

I agree Scott. How many years has it been the year of VDI? <Yawns>

Gunnar Berger9

99% sure Crowd Captian and Furrier are bots everybody :)

Crowd Captain

no we are not bots we are real people

thats what a bot would say :)

I am a human being I am not a bot!!!

http://youtu.be/nC3DmxSVjvc :)

Jim Canto

I'm a bot. @furrier and @CrowdCaptain actually have a pulse.

Jim Canto

@wonder_nerd Thanks a lot... I just spent 15 minutes watching Big Bang clips. Love that silly show. :-)

lol... I just thought that clip fit... maybe were all bots & Just dont know it yet. :)

Gunnar Berger9

So the question that came up in the Google Hangout is around VSAN. Its obviously a big player here what are your thoughts?

VSAN is the right direction for VMware - despite the fact that storage partners are a bit freaked out about it

My question is cost related. I wondering with the increase in the cost of Horizon from $150 p/u to $250 how does that off set the cost benefits

Everyone should work their own numbers, but the goal was to deliver cost savings (capex and opex) for Horizon storage.

I don't know where the X-over point is but I can almost guarantee it does NOT offset always but at some scale point it does

what I think is important is the policy-level integration between #Horizon6 and VSAN -- it's slick, and should make a big impact in day2day ops.

It's the job of every good SW vendor to try and commoditize the HW :-)

Of course, but there's more to it than that. One of the things that came out loud-and-clear in the announcement was integration of pieces into a whole.

@chuckhollis Thanks for coming to the independent crowd conversation here !! :-)

Another tidbit: Horizon and View requirements were a major influence in VSAN design and implementation. It's a very specific workload.

@discoposse you are quoted in my CrowdChat. deep investment in integration with #vCO and #vCAC http://twitter.com/discoposse/status/453942567839596546

discoposse

One thing we learned from the #Horizon6 announcement is the deep investment in integration with #vCO and #vCAC. http://t.co/mzhEgerymW

Quoted By @furrier

VSAN + VDI = Game Changer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=effLsu0O1Uc&feature=youtu.be&utm_content=buffer0636f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Rob Beekmans7

VMware Horizon 6 Technical Overview
Jared Cook from VMware's EUC Business Unit showcases Horizon 6 from a technical standpoint. He talks about the new Cloud Pod architecture, RDS Hosted Applica...

Good share, I need to learn more about this

Tommy vTexan Trogden

i'm having a hard time getting past the shirt :)

great video I'm trying to find an architecture slide from the event photos.. anyone have a photo of architecture?

Crowd Captain7

Here is the view of the Horizon Workspace. They need to work on the UI it's not that impressive http://goo.gl/TBuEKx

I happen to like the UI... there are some tweaks I would make to it, nothing substantial. Simple, is often the most elegant. #Horizon6

The Ui is nice but my customers work from the desktop most of the time or if I force them from the startmenu. they will never see this UI if they have a choice

It's really for the mobile user, 99% of desktop users wont use it. #Horizon6

@robbeekmans its similar to StoreFront, so its just meh to me. Nothing new, but solid approach that works for Citrix

I like the simplicity of it too, I do think users will also transition away from desktops to SaaS type functionality in their personal consumer space and will take to this much easier as things progress

Scott D. Lowe

As long as it works, I'm happy.

Mark Fermin7

So will VMWare start aggressively going after ELA customers running XenApp on VMWare? Seems that they have a lot to leverage right now (like XenApp 7.5 trepidation/frustration amongst Citrix customers...and those who haven't even done 6.5 migrations yet)

If they's released this two months earliers they had a fair change of taking over some unsatisfied Citrix XenApp Advanced customers. :) with Xenapp 7.5 on the market with MCS it's a different world. we have to compare

I think they will. Why wouldn't they, they don't need every checkbox that Citrix has. Its built of RDSH so they have a play

like we always say "it depends"

Mark Fermin

@gunnarwb My thoughts too. The fact that its still RDSH keeps that leap pretty small. XenApp plat customers are more invested with customization, 3P solutions, etc., but Advanced customers, maybe even Ent have reason to look...

Mark Fermin

@robbeekmans Hehe - the consultant's mantra!

that's me. doing VMware and Citrix, no fanboy of anyone... they need to pay me more (citrix and VMware that is) to be a fanboy ;)