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Q2: How do you decide between air and water cooling?

HPC_Badger
(1/3) @cray_inc There are considerations for performance and considerations for the datacenter.
Isabel Valoria Rao, P.Eng.
What are the main decision criteria?

HPC_Badger
(2/3) For performance, it’s about matching the cooling to the technologies so one is able get the most efficient use out of them. For many of today’s modern processors, that may lead us to direct liquid cooling.

HPC_Badger
(3/3) For data center considerations, it's often about reducing the costs of the cooling solution. Some have access to "free" air cooling, and others have access to water that can reduce their TCO.

Wade Doll
(1/2) There is a cross-over point where water cooling just makes more sense. This is driven by CPU requirements, desires to minimize cooling costs, and density.

Wade Doll
(2/2) Air cooling, while lower CAPEX, is at one end of the spectrum and water cooling is at the other with lower TCO.

HPC_Badger
I think that the decision criteria often comes down to the best TCO while meeting performance goals. That TCO calculation should include the costs for installing in a data center and any changes required, the acquisition costs, and the running costs for the lifetime.

CoolIT Systems
@HPC_Badger @Cray_inc Agreed. Direct Liquid Cooling delivers on all three of the key demands that are driving the data center cooling industry today: increased rack density, optimized performance and maximum energy efficiency.
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Brandon Peterson
From CoolIT's perspective, we see our customers move to liquid cooling primarily to enable high TDP processors, from a thermal perspective. This typically gets them to 60-70% heat capture into liquid. (1/2)

Einar Næss Jensen
how much difference is there regarding tco for rear door cooling (with water) vs direct node/cpu cooling
Brandon Peterson
From there, our customers look at lower density heat sources to find the right balance between % heat capture and TCO, targeting CPU VR, memory and other heat sources to push heat capture to 85%+. Some even target 100% heat capture to liquid. (2/2)

Curt Wallace
Air was never an efficient heat extractor, just an abundant one. When he cooling needs of a new system approach the cooling capacity of the DC, a different solution is needed. Retrofitting a DC is better than building a new one.
Brandon Peterson
@einjen We find the decision for rear door vs. direct liquid cooling vs. combined rear door/direct liquid comes down to the existing infrastructure and available liquid temperatures. Each site has a different TCO model, determined by Capex and Opex requirements for that site.

Einar Næss Jensen
thanks Brandon