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Not really no. We have now customers with hundreds of thousands of employees running fiori without performance issues. Obviously - Angular is a valid option. Question is - what do you gain from UI5?

@OliverGraeff - that was your queue :)

Especially if this is about a business/enterprise app, SAPUI5 is preferred. It is evolving, especially in areas related to performance and incorporating/enabling new web paradigms...

agreed. my another question is why to reinvent the wheels when we great tested frameworks like #Angular #React

@OliverGraeff agreed so are we also saying SAPUI5 will eventually bring in concept web components PWA etc like #Ionic and other framework does? or am i missing its all there?

You can already write PWA's with UI5

Exactly. We will modularize SAPUI5 and e.g. separate the rendering of UI controls for the underlying programming model. This will give us much more flexibility in exactly this regards

@wolf_gregor gr8 let me google did not know this

But why do you want to reinvent the wheel if there are standard SAP Fiori Apps (already over 1000) and implement them from scratch in Angular? Also think in the direction of accessibility, i18n and coherent design.

@wolf_gregor agree actually the question was overall from SAP choice of going for a new framework all together. if we see in blockchain i believe we have resused hyperledger rather than developing anything from scratch lole in UI5

SAPUI5 is THE technology of choice for web apps. Also within SAP its use is extended to many more solutions and applications. And while leveraging its enterprise qualities like security, I18N, design as @wolf_gregor put it, it will also include the 'new stuff'

cool thanks for inputs cleared my certain doubts 👍

I have created a UI5 application that is used by a company in remote forests, here in Brazil. They don't have the best devices neither the best connectivity. People work on open terrain and, still, the users are very satisfied with app performance and we have very high adoption.

That is great to hear! I know I, for one, would love to see that app.

In this particular case, this app works both online and offline so we can count on UI5 for both performance and robustness

@jessicafmux Sure! Let's talk and I'll show you.

Great! I've sent you my contact info.

great will it be possible to share the experience/challenges on SCN so that we all can benefit.

I would suggest this @opensap course: https://open.sap.com... and the Getting Started section of the documentation https://ui5.sap.com/...

To start, the SAPUI5 SDK is a great place! https://sapui5.hana.... Documentation, demo apps...

And to understand UI5 high-level, look at https://www.sap.com/...

@OliverGraeff Aha! I was JUST about to suggest that link as well. Great minds.

@wolf_gregor would you like to see an updated openSAP course on UI5? What is missing?

@OliverGraeff an update with a focus on how to extend SAP Standard Apps and using SAP Fiori Elements would be highly apreciated.

@wolf_gregor I'm curious if you have used SAPUI5 Flexibility Services at all (yet)?

@jessicafmux involved in a project that uses a ABAP 7.40 backend and @sapcp Portal in the frontend for a Customer Portal. Using Annotations from ABAP to power Fiori Elements List Report

#FioriCloud helps you simplify the implementation of #SAPFiori. By leveraging #cloud services you gain automatic updates for the Fiori app, #sapUI5 libraries, etc. and simplifying your on premise landscape

blueprint: https://www.sap.com/...

I recommend this blueprint giving guidance, and directions for using SAP Fiori Cloud to increase employee productivity and satisfaction by modernizing the user experience https://www.sap.com/...

That's one GREAT blueprint!

Thanks for setting this up. I look forward to doing this again.

agreed. A big thanks to everyone for this quick 60 minutes dose with tons of informations🙏

It was awesome - I hope we can do it again!

see you next time

great thanks eveyone for making it happen, already looking forward for next! @sapcp @SAPMobile @SAPMentors @sapcommunity

Bye

thank you all!

This was fun

Since I entered SAP, I enjoy a paper-free office. That is already a very nice digital experience :)

to save trees

@mgrasshoff I was going to say the same thing....I kringe every time I have to print something.

At this very moment I'm in a digital experience and joining a crowd, chat for the very first time with our customers: conversational, web, twitter, multi-channel - I think this is an improvement

Mobile Services generally gets updates once a month.

1. MS has a monthly release cycle

2. https://blogs.sap.co... explains it best

3. see 2.

On aspect of our release cycle I really like is the "Preview" account. In Preview, you get to see what's coming to the production landscape two weeks before it actually gets deployed.

Are folks out there using Preview? It's a balance - getting innovation in the hands of customers as quickly as possible, while at the same time giving visibility to customers about what's coming!

Also, for each release, there is a youtube video post highlighting list , should subscribe to it
https://www.youtube....

3. helped one customer last year to get an offline mobile app to production on SCPms. There are very happy. No issues due to the releases.

@wolf_gregor that's what we like to hear...production...offline....no issues ;-)

@brittwomelsdorf You can check out this Presentation from #DSAG Technologietage https://www.dsag.de/... (DSAGnet Access required)