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I hope includes not using the term anymore and getting back to the core focus ideals...

Like @botchagalupe says, that we get past nomenclature and get on with designing for innovation and delivery that meets or exceeds business needs.

i agree, i think it will "eliminate" that term because the tools and platforms will become seamless

"Two Speed" IT" will be with us for a while still. Process and tooling innovation that spans those worlds will create differentiation

#DevOps is a business and cultural change set to spark increased business velocity. Only time will tell what it becomes in the steady state after years of practice. Teams can build technical debt in any process.

@botchagalupe "I hope includes not using the term anymore…" +10

The perfect toaster!

The addition of business and security.

but does it toast bagels?

It's no longer a "thing," it's just how software is developed.

@jonasjacobi I want a perfect toaster.. The one I have doesn't even do toast the same from one half to the other. Where's the DevOps in that?

...another vote for abolishing the #DevOps term.

@tcrawford Yes!

@tmmoore_1 IT (ie: DevOps) won't decide that. The non-IT business orgs will. (mic drop)

two speed it is the not devops... it's silly...

but what to call it @tcrawford -- we've heard #NoOps and other such things...

Wait -- who handed the mic to @tcrawford ?? // @tmmoore_1

@amyhermes We really need to get away from all of these tech terms that we spend endless roundabouts trying to define.

two speed it is totally ridicules ... speed 1 = no innovation... watch the #DOES videos and learn..

@amyhermes Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I ripped it out of someone's hand. Isn't that what social media is all about? :)

Don't disagree @tcrawford but then Twitter conversations and conference hallway talks would be so much less fun, no? Clarity is always in demand.

@botchagalupe You're on a fool's errand. The two speed thing is dying fast.

Depends on who you ask @tcrawford #ISayTomato and @rhm2k says eggplant. ;)

speaking of toasters... I want one that burns an image of Jimi Hendrix

Thanks @KevJosephAllen and @amyhermes … definitely a great conversation with an all-star cast. TYVM.

@botchagalupe Can we just go back to those toasters that fly?

@amyhermes No, I say "aubergine".

@tcrawford that's what I was saying... meaning ppl who say 2 spped/bi modal are saying that there's' no need to innovate that half.

@botchagalupe or.. really don't understand innovation .. or want to sell you something...

@botchagalupe ...or both.

A successful business?

An ambidextrous toaster

More lemonade stands

The measure of success would probably be the ability to successfully embrace increasing automation, without increasing headcount, and the maintenance or improvement of 'resilience' (<- @jamesurquhart )

Every software development team considering infrastructure and operational concerns throughout their product lifecycle.

DevOps exists to enable software to better meet the needs of the business. Period.

That you can do more, do it faster, and do it with more success.

@jamesurquhart "to better meet the NEEDS of the business", or the NERDS of the business?

I'm w/ @jamesurquhart: Metrics need to be in business terms. Automation for the sake of automation is like tech for the sake of tech.

*giggles* @rhm2k -- aren't those the same thing?

@rhm2k If they are nerds of business...they probably are pretty focused on the needs of the business. :)

. @tcrawford It's understanding business value .. see "Art of Business Value"

@botchagalupe Spot on! You're preaching to the choir.

@tcrawford :)

@botchagalupe ...but we are both assuming that one truly understands what business value means.

@rhm2k Not what I mean. Successful DevOps enables better/faster delivery (and operation) of software that drives better agility.

You REALLY want us to boil that down to ONE thing? SRSLY???

Should be an easy task for TMMIC @rhm2k -- no?!?

The most important thing to keep in mind: You will never solve security definitively.

Ensure that every attack vector that you can think of is tested and monitored and alerts/prevents deployments/rejects PR's if it fails. Never rely on humans to catch security threats.

Toasty :) @IBMcloud

OK, @rhm2k — you can give us your top 5.

There is no fixed way of doing systems security. The key is constantly measuring and understanding how systems interact with each other and the outside world. It is a constant game of learning.

Thinking about the possibilty of security breach, it's never "if" but always "when".

@jamesurquhart +1

Security is so big and goes in so many directions to find the vulnerabilities from code to hardware to physical security. The one thing is therefore it is so big that you need to cast a wide net around it.

@rhm2k I agree - there are so many. One that folks forget about often are Potentially Unwanted Applications - stale applications live forever.

@rhm2k …and "how"…

@rhm2k and to add..how your org responds in the event of a breach.

@lesliegeek Agreed - I also love hackathons focused on breaking things. Reminds me of the office space copier scene. https://www.youtube....

And to @lesliegeek 's earlier comment, it's more often about 'who' rather than 'what'/

@ab415 Good point - do people feel comfortable reporting problems and having serious introspective post-mortems?

This is not a question for this group for this small time slot. Security is as much about the people and on going process as it is about any specific security tool or fix. Hard to focus on one w/o the other.

Perhaps @rhm2k should do a "Top 5" blog post... @IBMcloud

Sounds like a good #CloudMinds huddle topic to me @mthiele10 #SeeWhatIDidThere ;)

@amyhermes Can I bring Letterman out of retirement to read them?

@rhm2k So it is a "when" situation. But when it happens, the surface area needs to be minimized, and you can make lemonade out of those lemons that result.

I nominate the honorable @KevJosephAllen @rhm2k :)

A holistic mindset... Systems thinking ... the really hard stuff