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What will be the impact of net neutrality ruling on the cloud services?
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Maish Saidel-Keesing (☁️🚀☁️🚀☁️)
Is there such a thing as net neutrality???
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Tim Crawford
I don't think the impact to enterprises is fully understood.
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too early to call.. that ruling is just one skirmish in just one battle of a wider war
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Mark Thiele he/him I agree. I think most folks will take a wait and see approach. As in "wait and see if someone gets burned"
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the key is in the portability of @docker containers, that's what will drive the net neutrality
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Chris Swan isn't that deployment neutrality (which is a good thing)?
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Joe Baguley Really? Traffic will still be shaped...
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Diane Mueller if net neutrality is about control of the pipeline; the freedom to deploy where ever is key
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Krish Subramanian
Too early as Chris said
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Tim Crawford
I do wonder if the Net Neutrality ruling will increase the drive for cloud verticals and/or vertical offerings more than in the past.
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another regulation and deep packet inspection QoS bottleneck to deal with.. might be opportunity for #SDN maybe.. not my wheelhouse but that's my opinion
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Surendra Reddy Software Defined Net neutrality :)
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Will we see the rise of multiple alternate new 'free' networks? Is this the dawn of some post-apocalyptic multi-internet of fridges?
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Chris Swan mesh networks will be a big deal for IoT, and we're already on the swing away from a centralised model (what we presently call cloud) to something more distributed. Smaller containers like Docker will accelerate the process.
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Chris Swan
worst case is we will see the incumbents in the service provider world start to employ regulatory capture in the same way large firms before them have - pulling the ladder up behind them to prevent innovation
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Remember that NN doesn't necessarily drive us back to fully private environments in our own DC. There are new options today.
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Chris Swan also subsidised data for services is more likely to impact B2C world than B2B
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All new methods of traffic encapsulation will be invented, and further abstraction from the carriers. It will not go the way they want it to.
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Chris Swan seems like carriers are trying to double dip. No good reason they should be allowed to do that.
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John Furrier love to get Martin Casado's perspective here or @randybias he was pushing something in #openstack around #SDN
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Tim Crawford Carriers need new revenue sources to maintain growth. They haven't had that for a while and take a bite at everything they can.
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most likely will have to pay for top performance cloud to cloud connectivity
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Chris Swan hence direct connect
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Maish Saidel-Keesing (☁️🚀☁️🚀☁️) It is no different from what we have today - quality network pipes cost major $$$
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there is lot of data fusion taking place in the core of the cloud but more of the action is at the edge of network - still controlled by carriers.
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John Furrier I like the data fusion vision very relevant
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Surendra Reddy internet of everything, sensors-everywhere, smart transportation, learning engines in the cloud would transform the cloud as the brains for intelligence.. but still that intelligence need to be given to the consumers on demand...
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Surendra Reddy @furrier data fusion is meaningless if insights can be delivered to edge devices/users real-time...
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Tim Crawford Love the data fusion story, but there is quite a bit of distance between the mechanics and value.
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Maish Saidel-Keesing (☁️🚀☁️🚀☁️) I am starting to think there is such a thing as "Too much Data"....
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Maybeit gives those cloud service providers who also own the pipes competitive differentiation??
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Tim Crawford This is a key opportunity for CSP to partner w/ DC/Backbone providers. Ecosystem is key.
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Joe Baguley Like Google?
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Mark Thiele he/him "Owning" the pipes isn't necessarily the best approach. A better approach is to broker cost effective access to dozens. "Ecosystem"
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Chris Swan perhaps they might start selling call options on bandwidth rather than the puts that are all you can get from telcos at the moment
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John Furrier
'If it moves tax it, if it keeps moving regulate it, if it stops moving, subsidize it' - Ronald Reagan via my friend on FB Frank Slootman this morning