IBMOCA

Preview: IBM's OCA Summit
A preview of IBM's Open Cloud Architecture Summit. Register here: www.ibm.com/events/ocaseattle
IBM Cloud
All of our hosts today will be speaking at the Open Cloud Architecture Summit on 6/22. Can each of you give a quick preview on what you plan to discuss?
IBM Cloud
FYI: Registration is open (and free) for the event, which will take place at the Palace Ballroom in Seattle on 6/22 β€”Β www.ibm.com/events/o...
Antonio Carlos Pina
I would love to "hear" from them since I'm unable to attend this time !
Mark Thiele
Plan to discuss the strategy for multi-cloud use or what most would call hybrid cloud. Where are the risks & how to mitigate
Rob Hirschfeld
the importance of #composability to address hybrid and the explosion of options in platform stacks
Antonio Carlos Pina
Will be a live feed by chance ? Even periscope is accepted ;-)
Amy Hermes
We'll try & periscope as much as possible! :)
Duncan Johnston-Watt
@kmbannerman and myself will be talking about our collaboration - how @cloudsoft is leveraging @bluebox globally to deploy & manage distributed applications in #hybridharmony (to quote @amyhermes)
IBM Cloud
Yes! Follow @IBMCloud and the #IBMOCA hashtag on June 22 to see some livestreams and updates from the event.
Duncan Johnston-Watt
there is a ton of great content and I'm looking forward to listening to and learning from everyone
IBM Cloud
The portability that #containers allow is helping to drive hybrid cloud adoption. But could more open governance increase the benefit? Why/how?
Jason R McGee
We sometimes solve the same problem in many different ways. If we could agree to solve orchestration as an example in one way we could move on as an industry to the next issue.
Dr. Angel Luis Diaz
There is an open cloud architecture being established in the industry - containers is a foundational element. Lots more to do - open governance and user participation will drive the evolution.
Stormy
@jrmcgee We need to solve in many ways to innovate, but customers need portability and interoperability to move quickly and solve big problems.
Mark Thiele
Right now deploying containers in any real way is a snowflake activity. For true portability across cloud you need more than to move a workload. Security, Trust, Audit, all key to appropriate governance.
Duncan Johnston-Watt
IMO it's already happening with the advent of @cloudnativefdn?
Dr. Angel Luis Diaz
The next phase of open cloud bring each of the foundational elements closer and closer - openstack, cloud foundry. OCI, CNCF, OpenWhisk, ...
Antonio Carlos Pina
It depends on the user. A startup will required speed and almost no process, while the enterprise will require process, governance and reports, tons of reports rs
Chris Aniszczyk
+1 I invite everyone interested in the portability of containers and open governance to get involved with @OCI_ORG https://www.opencont...
Jason R McGee
@mthiele10 clearly containers alone is not enough.. need the full lifecycle of tools around containers to make it real
Mark Thiele
Many of the existing container strategies revolve around wrapping them in a legacy framework. Risk is that you reduce key benefits & increase overhead.
Duncan Johnston-Watt
that's a grand challenge
Sriram Subramanian
there is lot more steps to come before open govenance (from current state of containers)
Stormy
@mthiele10 I think the world is evolving from solutions around hardware to VMs to Containers ... now on to PaaS solutions like #CloudFoundry
Antonio Carlos Pina
I'm seeing here the very fast evolution of Apache Mesos and Docker.
Mark Thiele
@jrmcgee Absolutely! It's also about time to value. We shouldn't force one thing or the other on the community, but rather provide tools that give them real time to value w/flexibility.
Johanna Koester
@cra Great shoutout to the new @OCI_ORG handle, now following!
IBM Cloud
Moving forward, which open technologies will have the most significant impact on #hybridcloud adoption?
Sriram Subramanian
Not one, combination of many. openstack, cloudfoundry, kubernetes, open container initiaves
Mark Thiele
Orchestration & Policy... among other things.
Jason R McGee
The technologies that support flexibility and interoperability will surface as leaders and will see the most adoption. #containers is certainly going to be one of them.
Stormy
#CloudFoundry will have significant impact on #hybridcloud, multi-cloud adoption because it has a strong, diverse, cross-industry community creating solutions to solve the world's hardest problems.
Mark Thiele
Of course as a board member of #CNCF (Cloud Native Compute Foundation) i see them as a great resource for helping businesses make successful choices.
Antonio Carlos Pina
besides IaaS or containers platforms itself, secure and cheap ways of replicate or expand the of storage are very needed. Data is exploding everywhere.
Rob Hirschfeld
still maturing... I think that open software defined networking (SDN) is required for hybrid to advance
Mark Thiele
@zehicle Totally agree. We've made it core in our solution.. SDN with simplicity allowing for container level segmentation even within a vm.
seriously, wtf
@sriramhere and not just the combination of many, but the interop of that many
Rob Hirschfeld
channeling @mthiele10 : business needs, infrastructure choice & competition drive hybrid more than the tech
David H. Deans 🌐
Cloud brokerage platforms seems like a space where more new open projects materialize --like Project Jellyfish, etc
Duncan Johnston-Watt
the open technologies that will have the most impact are those that are open to adjusting their own footprint and aligning themselves with similar initiatives. Real world example @cloudfoundry @cloudnativefdn dialog IMO
IBM Cloud
Recently, IBM Cloud SVP Robert LeBlanc called open technology β€œthe foundation of the next generation of #cloud.” What evidence are you seeing to support this (or not)?
Jason R McGee
Growth in communities such as openstack went from what analysts called a science project 2 years ago to a thriving diverse community of 7000 + conference attendees.
Mark Thiele
There is no guarantee that what we're seeing will be the future. What's more important is that we continue towards the notion of providing customers w/choice that can drive value.
David H. Deans 🌐
Define 'next generation of cloud' -- it's very subjective
Ruben Orduz
The vast majority of tools and tooling powering the cloud today are Open Source.
Antonio Carlos Pina
crowd development is surpassing proprietary models in new features, releases, etc. It's the power of many. And it's exponential, impossible to curb.
Mark Thiele
There are still real risks as to the future of some of our more well known Opensource solutions. Keep in mind that the IT world has always been based on the rubber band effect.
Antonio Carlos Pina
@mthiele10 but technology is advancing exponentially and it seems more and more based on "tons of people" working together.
Stormy
as technologies evolve, open source solutions evolve so that people can collaborate and then invest their efforts in their unique products/value add.
seriously, wtf
"open" is the key here, it's becoming clear that multicloud is here to stay; the tools higher in the stack are becoming key. Open technology will drive that.
Sriram Subramanian
if you ignore AWS/ Azure or if you ignore public cloud, yes. While open tech is continuing cloud innovations, one cannot ignore the innovations major players are making behind walls. They might use some open source tech internally
Duncan Johnston-Watt
#openstack is a prime example - it hasn't always been plain sailing but it is definitely maturing as a platform alongside the new kids on the block
Antonio Carlos Pina
@sriramhere I think public cloud will evolve a lot but they can't do everything for everybody.
seriously, wtf
@duncanjw a good indicator is that maturity and adoption haven't slowed as these new kids have thrown down, exactly.
Mark Thiele
Agree that it looks good for opensource & I'm certainly a supporter. But we're still in the 2nd inning of the cloud game. There will be risks & failures that keep the need for proprietary & open.
Ruben Orduz
put another way, were it not because open tech, I would posit cloud adoption would be nowhere where it is today.
Jason R McGee
@dhdeans it is subjective... but one of the key aspects of next generation to me is the evolution of cloud from IaaS into a full spectrum platform providing all the tools developers need in a single experience
Antonio Carlos Pina
@mthiele10 A good mix of open and proprietary then ?
Rob Hirschfeld
it comes back how open influences to new "cloud native" architectures - that's the big trend over cloud vendor
Sriram Subramanian
agreed, and no single solution can do for everybody. What I am trying to say is, while open tech innovations will continue, so will the proprietary innovations.
Mark Thiele
It's interesting how we classify open source in the sense that the more successful ones are "sold" by a provider with proprietary roots.
Ruben Orduz
because even in proprietary contexts like AWS/Azure developers and enterprises use open source tools to manage and orchestrate their infrastructure.
Stormy
#CloudFoundry has 60+ companies working together on an open source, multi-cloud solution.
David H. Deans 🌐
@jrmcgee understood, regarding tools as a foundation for next-gen cloud -- but what about better management automation for provisioning, etc? Seems like there's lots of new upside by exploring the full potential of rules-based policies.