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Thanks for joining us today. Be sure to come back to watch @AndrewWLo next Thurs., 9/24, 12 noon, http://wp.me/p2HrZM-..., for a 30 min. Q & A, "Closer to a cure: a new approach to funding biomedical innovation". #MITexpert
Closer to a cure: a new approach to funding biomedical innovation
MIT Sloan's Andrew Lo will discuss how to use financial engineering to fund biomedical innovation during a live conversation on Sept. 24.
John Furrier
. @mitsloanexperts @AndrewWLo thanks for sharing your insight and data with us
Jennifer Grady
Very much looking forward to next week! Should be a great conversation between Andrew and Rebecca.
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo @knightrm > Exciting times, awesome opportunity
rebecca m. knight
At the risk of coming across as a downer, what are your biggest concerns about your proposed fund? In other words, why might it NOT work?
Doug Criscitello
Would the Fund feature enough diversification to generate investor interest? Is there a risk that failure could be highly correlated across assets in a bio-fund pool?
Jeff Frick
And at what stage of investing will the fund be targeted?
Andrew W. Lo
Great question! My biggest worry is not that it won't work, but rather that it works way too well and we start to attract fraudsters who prey on desperate patients and their families. I hope we've learned some lessons from the Financial Crisis.
Andrew W. Lo
That's a key issue, and one of the reasons we need scientists to collaborate with financial engineers to construct well-diversified portfolios. For some diseases like Alzheimer's, it will be a challenge, but for orphan diseases, it's a no-brainer.
Andrew W. Lo
@JeffFrick The most compelling fund will have projects at all stages so there's even more diversification, as well as near-term cashflow from the later-stage projects. But an early stage fund could work too if we use only equity to finance it.
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > That's an interesting perspective. Do see Cloud, Mobile, and BigData as significant enablers?
Josh Tammaro
Hi Professor Lo! Could you briefly explain your idea of a "megafund" that invests in early-stage biomedical research and drug development?
Jeff Frick
> When does a fund become a "Mega" Fund?
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > What's the feedback from the potential Limited Partners community on this approach?
Andrew W. Lo
Sure, it's a pot of money used to invest in various biomedical projects all at once, and the investors get paid when the projects mature into successful drugs.
Andrew W. Lo
@JeffFrick The term "megafund" is really meant to indicate that the scale needs to be big enough to yield many "shots on goal" so as to increase the chances of success.
Andrew W. Lo
@JeffFrick When my co-authors Jose Maria Fernandez and Roger Stein and I published the first paper on this idea in 2012, LPs were skeptical; now I'm getting regular calls from them asking where they can invest!
Doug Criscitello
Would investors demand assurances beyond the assets used in such a fund? If so, is there a role for government to provide limited backing or other assistance for the Fund? (Hopefully it won’t require anything like a Mega Mac.)
Andrew W. Lo
Certainly having government support (guarantees, tax benefits) would be helpful. For certain projects like cancer drugs, the private sector can handle much of the investment; for other diseases like Alzheimer's, government support is essential!
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > What role does the US Fed Government play? NGOs? if any....
ben shields
.@AndrewWLo your vision is exciting and inspiring. Can you share any early success stories? #MITexpert
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > Interesting as @Benioff spent a large amount of time at #Dreamforce talking about doing good #DF15
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo @benioff > But don't think his 1/1/1 plan approached $30B #DF15
Andrew W. Lo
A company called Malin did an IPO on the Irish Stock Exchange in March; unlike other biotech companies, this one had no projects, but simply announced its intention to put together a portfolio. They raised 330 million euros! http://bit.ly/1Dc
Andrew W. Lo
Stay tuned for more examples in the coming months!
ben shields
.@AndrewWLo how, if at all, are the dynamics of today's global economy affecting these initiatives? #MITexpert
Jeff Frick
> which dynamics are you thinking about?
Andrew W. Lo
In several ways. The biotech boom has gotten investors focused on this sector so they're now more open to new financing methods than ever before. However, macro issues like Greece and China may end up causing investors to head for the hills.
Andrew W. Lo
@JeffFrick My focus is on the incredible breakthroughs being made almost daily by scientists and clinicians; this dynamic tells me that we're at a inflection point in biomedicine. For the right long-term investor, the oppportunities are amazing right now.
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > Can you use different metrics of success when targeting such large problems?
Andrew W. Lo
@JeffFrick Yes, for example, impact investors care not just about financial return, but social return. Metrics are key to spurring innovation---you can't manage what you don't measure.
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > not to mention "moving backwards" things like people skipping vaccinations, enabling the return of things like polio and measles.
Jennifer Grady
What inspired you to look into how #FinancialEngineering could cure #cancer?
Andrew W. Lo
A few years ago, some friends and my mom were stricken with cancer and I wanted to do something to help out.
Jeff Frick
Personal motivation is always a powerful one. It's about people.
Jennifer Grady
Exactly. What an amazing motivation. And unique angle to approach it through finance.
Jeff Frick
Went to the MIT CDO West presentation of "The Human Face of Big Data" last night at Intel, very powerful medical examples.
http://thehumanfaceo...
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > Has this approach been used to tackle other large societal problems?
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > Are their any categories of disease that represent "Low hanging fruit?"
rebecca m. knight
For the orphan disease fund proposal, do you envisage multiple funds for multiple illnesses--one for #CF, one for DMD, one for ALS, etc--or are the patient populations so small that it would just be one fund for many diseases?
Crowd Captain
I love this question. Is there a cross over or synergies
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > at the Big Data event last night, they talked about the potential impacts of having everyone's gene sequencing available for $10. Crazy upside potential. #MooresLaw #DF15
Andrew W. Lo
The most effective fund will have multiple rare diseases so as to increase diversification, but I can give you a terrific example of a fund devoted just to Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (Solid Biosciences) that's done amazing things!
Andrew W. Lo
@JeffFrick If that happens, we're going to see cures for certain types of cancer within a decade!
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > That is certainly good news.
Andrew W. Lo
@CrowdCaptain Absolutely! Genetics plays a huge role in cancer, so if you can do sequencing much more cheaply and quickly, that accelerates innovation all sorts of ways. Don't forget that in silica drug development is now possible (David Shaw's company!).
Sam Kahane
@AndrewWLo if you could give one piece of advice to current MBA students and young professionals who are looking to change the world like you have..what would you say?
Sam Kahane
thanks Rebecca. Excited to hear Andrews thoughts
Andrew W. Lo
I would spend time learning more finance but also learning more about biotech and trying to bring these two disparate fields together. Scientists who want to start companies know very little finance, and vice versa---there's an arbitrage here!
Sam Kahane
great advice..off to the library now!
MIT Sloan
Hi Prof. Lo, how can #MBA students at MIT Sloan and elsewhere contribute to this field of work?
Andrew W. Lo
MBA students are the business leaders of the future; by learning more about how finance can be used in positive ways, they can change the world!
Sam Kahane
@AndrewWLo - Very interesting. Could you give an example of using finance positively to change the world?
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > Are you collaborating with other institutions at MIT? More on the medical / engineering side?
John Furrier
Can Financial Engineering change market dynamics and behavior? Innovation or Arbitrage? Is it a positive thing an oppty or is it dangerous?
Andrew W. Lo
It's both; like any powerful tool, financial engineering can be used or abused. That's why we need more education on these methods.
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > Love that question. "Invisible Hand" is a powerful force.
John Furrier
How does financial engineering promote innovation and entrepreneurship?
Jeff Frick
@AndrewWLo > Every coin has two sides!
Crowd Captain
arbitrage is the low hanging fruit but innovation is a longer game imo
John Furrier
@CrowdCaptain the balance between the investor needs and entrepreneurs wants must be aligned to make this work