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abstraction of applications, regardless of delivery is necessary for anywhere, anytime, any device. Why be tethered to a specific OS or piece of hardware?

@yavital Competition drives innovation after all :)

I think it goes back to my earlier statement... the cloud has changed. with many adopting a cloud first model & consumers on the move. Adopt now or become outdated soon!

the complete concept around EUC has and is changing, trying to manage a much more diverse platform than one PC per user with your own apps alone. A modern desktop needs to be flexible for many reasons, VDI and App virt is just two solutions

Is there any new technology/trend in past few years which have changed or "incented" an enterprise to move faster?

different needs... in some cases you need an entire desktop... in other maybe just few applications

A2: So many reasons. Display protocol improvements, storage perf, hyper converged h/w, virtual graphics, etc all make it near or better than local experience.

Overall technology improvements of the entire stack from hardware to EUC software & app modernization are removing a lot of barriers

@yavital Competition is always good for customers.

And there are also other approaches... like managed desktops/laptop (ie: Mirage)

all-flash storage is making many VDI deployments viable now

the internet or connectivity improvements maybe? Server virtualisation?

I'd say the BYOD model has caused a lot of companies to look at desktop virtualization and app delivery more closely in the past couple of years.

@petrirantanen agree. Flash is making VDI at scale affordable.

GPU is bringing some benefits but storage

EUC maturity is a definite plus.

@thefog72 Completely agree. Device proliferation is driving much of this change. Thanks for your comment.

Hyper converged and new innovations like app vol.

Lots of incremental improvements,

@GrantsFriend I think GPU is part of it, and its making it so orgs can address the last few closet cases that couldnt be virtualized before.

App Volumes might change the game if implemented properly (to Horizon)

@wonder_nerd GPU is still very niche, I think this will change as it becomes integral in the hardware

Built in redundancy. After initial high investment, maintenance costs would be lower than many more physical machines. Provide more flexibility for the organization. Work from anywhere, whenever required.

If done right, VDI delivers a 'better' desktop with lower capex and opex than conventional distributed desktops

@wonder_nerd it will make it easier as it becomes integral but organisations that didn't consider VDI are now looking at it due to GPU improvements and GRID intergration

Rapid deployment, easier administration, more uniformity and control, easier to fix most issues #HorizonChat

VDI/App virt/MDM/MAM should all be parts in a bigger strategy for an org to deliver apps and data to users on any device, securely.

App Layering in the likes of AppVolumes, Unidesk and FlexApp are huge! I would much prefer that method of packaging and deploying to the masses. Huge time, cost and resources savings. Less skilled packagers required too

@P2Vme niches are promising. Think Healthcare and O&G potential for VDI with GPU

@wonder_nerd Agree on corner cases, but GPU is increasingly becoming an assumed capability for basic things like productivity software and web browsing. WebGL will drive this even more.

@P2Vme Last year it was niche by necessity, this year all bets are off

GPU is very important now, you have be better than PC.

=> Security, security, security.

hyperconverged infrastructure for sure - all of the big players are entering the game

@SimonBramfitt amen, when done right, Desktop Virtualisation is the best solution hands down.

@P2Vme Yes and no... look at MS OSs, android, IOS... all of them are getting more and more graphics intensive... I think it will become extremely relevant to most desktops in the next 2 years.

@shawnbass Most solutions we are doing now have some GPU capability for everyday use cases, GPU doesnt just mean CAD etc

@SimonBramfitt I think it will take longer and I agree... I wouldn't have wrote a blog that it should / will be standard if I didn't :)

@Rorymon Totally agree. These techs really do transform VDI/RDSH deployment and mgmt. Provides great OpEx reduction.

@NutanixTommy EVO:RAIL has commoditized hyper- convergence for general workloads but few platforms are well suited for VDI yet

@shawnbass I try not to get into the OpEx v CapEx discussions in my places of work when they come up but from a technical standpoint. It's the shit! :)

I think the future for most applications is cloud native browser based applications, however we cant forgot the legacy applications and this is where app publishing and virtualisation come to play

Removal of the reliance on a defined OS, how realistic this is is another thing

Should be looking at how to free apps and data from a particular O/S and deliver to any device, securely. Initially virtualising windows apps, but ultimately re-writing to HTML5 etc.

Centralized management and distribution of apps, I guess.

"app transformation"???? what

@VirtualisedReal Agreed but we're some way off. Don't think the browser or developers are up to speed with what we think

Yesterday visited a customer site (healthcare) that has legacy windows 2000 (!) MetaFrame farm for some old apps

Flexibility in new deployments - from ThinApps, to RDS hosted apps, now app Volumes, this abstraction is making pick-and-chose apps/layers and management easier #HorizonChat

App transformation to me means the movement to any device. For example I can't put a web based app on a wearable - there is no Apple Watch Browser. So app transformation implies service layers below that provide general functions/features that allow the

Most people use the term app rationalization which is all about determining what apps are truly needed for the org and then focusing on them or pushing to SaaS where possible to reduce costs.

Even if cloud native apps may be the future, there are still tons of Windows apps out there - and those need to be supported for quite a while

different type of app depending on how you are consuming them, manage them (ie ThinApp app), or develop them

@VirtualisedReal YES! and this approach covers the basis for most deployment models, removing the operating system trade off we currently have to make

Cloud app, i wish there where even Win7 apps

allow the APP to be tuned to the appropriate UI metaphors.

@shawnbass This is a huge problem for most but critical to moving forward with any EUC project

@VirtualisedReal True, there is a very long tail. But we mustn't just put in stop gaps that are just delaying a problem a few years...

@drtritsch Preaching to the choir here Benny. I've always said after nuclear war it'll be cockroaches and Windows apps that survive. ;)

@Andrea_Mauro Most are going to HTML5 or web apps... but I don't think that there is only one possibility in app transformation

@JoeBaguley That's a dream, HTML5 won't come for a lot of apps, but we're more flexible in how we can deploy things, anyway.

@drtritsch agreed, but placing them in a html 5 delivery platform and improving touch access to them goes a long way.

@JoeBaguley I agree, this is a huge challenge for how this is achieved for most, legacy systems are holding a lot of organizations back

IMHO are most important that app could be cloud ready and scale and be high availability using the cloud opportunities

@yavital legacy stays longer than many technologists would like to. VDI is a bridge.

@JoeBaguley I think the challenge orgs have today is they no longer have 10 years to figure this out because of OS Migration. Now it's move fast or die.

@vGazza @yavital Yes, but that bridge will be around for as long as the Windows long tail is. Hint: We'll all be retired. ;)

@shawnbass legacy Windows apps are far more resilient than roaches!

@yavital not surprising, you will also probably find that they have a PDP-11 tucked away in a dark corner somewhere. Just because we call it legacy doesn't mean there's not a good business case to keep it

@shawnbass The tail is very long, but we have to make sure we are headed in the right direction...

It's a really exciting time to be in the EUC Space. In my experience the main hurdle for VDI projects has been the apps. Getting the desktops up and running is and has been somewhat painles. Transformation is simples now

@anthonyrhook You could be the crowd captain today CaptainHook :-)

Default to AppVirt with isolation, apps doesn't work when isolated. Layer it. The HTML5 discussion is interesting. Cameyo and MainFrame2 already have this but it seems niches at the moment

Windows applications on a phone just don't jive, even with HTML5 unless the app is properly refactored

AppX on Windows 8\8.1\10 mainly point to a site anyways. So HTML5 modern apps should become the norm...or so you'd hope

Yarrr

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