HPPaaS

Quality of Service and Chargeback become key – you must be able to not only run services but monitor and manage them

4 Votes Vote

A5. Services include hybrid cloud management, security, data integration and management, service management, workload management, testing, etc.

Message queuing is critical to building applications that are highly fault tolerant

Security will always raise its pesky head

You can't have cloud applications exist in isolation from other apps, services, on premises apps and data center services -- i.e. transaction management

All the usual suspects. Cloud-native means faster & better use of resources, but the ancient laws of enterprise IT must be followed

Msg queuing enables quick hand-offs of data and the ability to selectively bring pieces of an app up and down. Think Netflix chaos monkey!

Dave Nielsen

object storage like S3

Yes, nice.

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Yes - to build fault tolerance between component layers - allows for redundancy and dynamism

1. Enterprise SSO 2. DBaaS like Cassandra 3. MBaaS like @StrongLoop 4. Microservice Discovery and Mgmt like Gilliam

Next on my list would be highly available databases. WIth things like replication built in, that takes away what is traditionally single point of failure - or very expensive to make redundant.

@CloudianStorage agree - this is the first time in history where enterprise gets an "at scale" IaaS-agnostic and language-agnostic platform where apps/devs/departments can be tied to usage and billing

You're definitely looking at things as a custom developer. Maybe a bit ahead of internal developers who don't move as fast & need "proven" products/services

@jhurwitz you also need data portability across hybrid cloud

Steven Noble

@IoT2040 or worse, need old versions of the platform to do their code

@IoT2040 - security and clustered 3rd party services are two of the three weakest links in Cloud Foundry today

@davenielsen object storage is a key component and S3 is already the defacto standard - we should embrace it in all PaaS

Simone Morellato

@davenielsen Agree, having a fully compatible S3 API, with all the features, like versioning, tieiring and data life cycle will be great.

@davenielsen we've seen @CloudianStorage and RiakCS from @basho doing a great job for CF users

Dave Nielsen

Swift as Object Storage is far from standard in Cloud Foundry.

We are testing Cloudian HyperStore object storage integration with Cloud Foundry, S3 compatiblity is coming soon!

Good summary of key components - I'd add a 5) object/blob storage layer

Renat Khasanshyn9

Q8: What does the launch of Dev Platform mean for the PaaS end users?

Bringing Hybrid Cloud closer to reality – Dev Platform offers better tooling for customers to allow interchangeability of cloud apps and portability.

3 Votes Vote

The end user shouldn't be aware of a good PaaS platform. It should just work predictably

3 Votes Vote

John Furrier

easy to standup apps with integrated tech built in the stack that just works simply. AWS is the gold standard

I think Helion Dev Platform is a message "finally, a single vendor for end-to-end "Hardware + IaaS + PaaS" or a combination, with a true public or private deployment models

It means easy access to PaaS in the enterprise. Every OpenStack customer with Dev Plat will be able to leverage PaaS as part of their private cloud.

Public & private & their difference. Find Marten's comments abt beer & cloud in an interview I did with him last month :-)

At the end of the day we want speed & we want to end the gross inefficiencies in utilization of processing power, storage, & networking. Big picture means greener IT

Renat Khasanshyn9

Q4: How will containers play into role of PaaS, application delivery and development?

Keep things all neat & tidy

Stephen Spector

Can containers replace IaaS?

Containers will make all workloads portable between between IaaS. #Docker in 30% done in creating a foundation for app portability the world has never seen before!

containers are the abstraction layer we need to have portability and modularity

For dev plat, the make scaling of apps incredibly fast

I think we have to remember that "virtual" is supposed to = faster more efficient better but we still want apps & their dependencies to be self-contained

@SpectorID Containers wont replace IaaS, - they will unite them all! One app. One container. All clouds.

containers make service orientation and service management a reality

auto-scale multiple app instances in seconds instead of minutes.

And portable, yes

So not 1 Ring to Rule them All, but 1 Container to Rule them all

we need an abstraction layer to run apps - in my view it does not particularly matter if that is containers or VMs - the important thing is abstraction

@jhurwitz you are right - this will enable 2nd generation of cloud orchestration tools that @RightScale pioneered 7 years ago

containers will become the standard within PaaS environments

@CloudianStorage agreed - and what that abstraction offers is priceless

Dave Nielsen

Everything is new again. Ignore containers at your peril

Renat Khasanshyn7

Q7: What's that one thing that would make your life easier as a developer?

it would be the ability to find the right service at the right time to do the right task

Better monitoring/analysis of underlying IaaS stuff

Common APIs across cloud stacks

DevOps teams need it. Need for speed/flexibility is so extreme

@CloudianStorage Yes

Testing as a service

As a Dev give me PaaS, APIs as a Service and DBaaS and business owners will shit their pants by seeing their apps in prod tomorrow. If you don't give me these - I wont work for your company.

Sample Code & Apps

Haha true dat but I think PaaS providers (& cloud providers in general) need to understand that not everyone is moving at warp speed