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There is quite a bit of momentum behind CF today. How does OpenShift address that? What differentiators?

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differentiators is the scale of deployment and the customer base is there says Red Hat

@furrier If CF is boiling the cloud ocean, could the same be said for RHT?

RHT is more bulletproof for the enterprise CF is duct taping things together says Diane

she said CF isn't boiling anything but a tool for certain things

@Crowdfather I wouldn't call CF a duct tape approach

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

I can only imagine @wattersjames is nearby and... intrigued...

James is on now and was listening to the interview

Florian (Flo) Leibert, Founder & CEO, Mesosphere live on @theCUBE right now

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horizontally scalable is the key to the #cloud says Flo

value propositions is to orchestrate containers at scale

background is airbnb and Twitter - and great handle @flo - talk about some great growth companies. What learnings for Mesos?

"Mesos is the operating system for the data center" @flo - infra, not #bigdata

Mesosphere is the operating system of the datacenter to make the entire data center as one resource pool

Flo is explaining how Mesos interacts with Docker and Kubernetes? they have a deal with Google

Mesos helps orchestrate and scale Kubernetes and Docker

Isn't the timeline to revenue for startups shrinking? @jmckenty says 3-4yrs.

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Explain in more detail?

The pressure is on to reach revenue and profitability sooner than in the past.

Because burn rates have skyrocketed out of control. http://avc.com/2014/...

Burn Baby Burn – AVC
Andy sent me a WSJ piece with Bill Gurley yesterday. I don’t like to link to paid content so here’s a good Business Insider summary of the article that is open for anyone to read.

Also, window of opportunity of revenue generation for independent OpenStack companies has just opened up within the last 12 months. Before then, too early.

@blueboxjesse No question the time to produce is shorter than in the past.

B2B sales have to show "traction" via revenue, not eyeballs or share of voice.

@blueboxjesse Nice to have vs. willing to pay are two different values.

So true.

Yes! #OpenStack needs to be delivered as a service...not a software distribution to enterprises.

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Jesse's point is operational issue is a burden and it should not be

@furrier This is the point that *most* don't fully understand/ appreciate.

Openstack won the marketing war says Jesse Proudman

Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ

It's not either/or. 4 many OpenStack as service is more optimal but 4 others it' makes more sense 2 operate their own cloud.

I don't think it can be appreciated until you have boots on the ground.

@craig_tracey HUGE understatement.

standing up OpenStack is a mostly solved problem. Operating it is far far far from it. Most (even very technical) shops wont have the know-how or the desire to do so.

You're asking Infrastructure/ Ops to be Devs. Not typical.

correct. This is why I have launched my side business: breeding unicorns.

@craig_tracey You're going to make a killing! Need an investor? #unicorn

Maish Saidel-Keesing (☁️🚀☁️🚀☁️)

@craig_tracey UaaS Unicorns as a Service #OpenStackSV

.@kemp: Take a leap of faith w/ #OpenStack. <Hard pill for #CIO to swallow.

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taking a leap of faith is a hard sell in the enterprise - just saying

For the #CIO: Leap of Faith = Risking Job (and CO). Much more to consider.

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

conflating a 'Product' or a 'Service' with a 'loose concept + Support Contract'

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-83438

Any sufficiently advanced product is indistinguishable from marketing.

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+1 @Qthrul good marketing is key to a great product no one like "Cold Dead Fish" but they love "Sushi"

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

@furrier I had amazing cold dead fish as a service last week in Vegas -- yet no oceans nearby! #markets #services

@furrier Well said! Furthermore, customers don't want a DIY rod, bait, knife, bag of rice and bowl.

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

@DavidMPollack now I'm imagining drive thru sushi

Sushi as a Service - need that

Roadkill

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

@DavidMPollack curbside caviar

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@DavidMPollack blacktop buffet

Can @HP be the corporate lead that #OpenStack needs to carry it forward?

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Does #OpenStack really need corporate leadership? Let's open that can of worms. What would make HP different from RedHat in that regard?

From the enterprise perspective, HP has a more complete ecosystem. RHT has a different perspective.

I'll ask the guest this question

HP's challenge is in their ability to integrate and bring it to bear.

By complete ecosystem, do you mean complete package? HW, SW, Support?

HP's challenge is arguably its variety of choice in offerings.