ISAWchat

IS Awareness Week Chat
Leading epileptologists answer questions about the signs of infantile spasms and treatment options.
   7 years ago
#ISAWchatIS Awareness Week ChatChat for parents with infants experiencing infantile spasms .
Susan Hull Jorski
I do have a question: about a year ago I came across a woman who has TSC and was worried that her child was having infantile spasms. I told her to take him to the ER but she was turned away, so I suggested she try another one.
Susan Hull Jorski
With the urgency to catch and treat IS as soon as possible, what is the best way to handle situations like this?
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That's a really good question. I hope it doesn't happen often, but if it does, I would call child neurology offices and ask for an urgent appointment. When they ask why, say "my baby is having spasms".
patricia mcgoldrick
It is extremely urgent to treat as quickly as possible.The outcomes are better when treatment with appropriate medication takes place in a timely fashion - that is within a day or two.
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At that point it's just a description ("spasm" in the non-medical sense), but should be enough to get the office moving in the right direction.
patricia mcgoldrick
Also - what has worked for our patients is to refusw to leave the ER until they speak with a pediatric neurologist!
Susan Hull Jorski
She had already scheduled an appt with a neurologist (new pt) but I believe she posted her video to the TS Alliance FB page on a Friday night, which is why I suggested the ER.
patricia mcgoldrick
Actually, say "My baby is having infantile spasms."
patricia mcgoldrick
The ER was PERFECT advice - they need to get in for a video EEG right away.
Susan Hull Jorski
Thank you! I hope the next parent doesn't have to deal with this type of frustration.
Kari Luther Rosbeck
@tsalliance What's the single most important thing you share with parent's/caregivers whose baby is suspected of having IS? #ISAWchat ...
Susan Hull Jorski
Where to start? There are a few that I do share. Videotape anything that looks suspicious to share with the doctor, know that hypsarrhythmia is not always present in an eeg if a child is having infantile spasms, and SABRIL!!!
Danielle Boyce
Trust your gut, don't stop until you are comfortable with the answers, keep researching and talking to other parents, videotape if you can, see an epileptologist and developmental ped, and sign up for Early Intervention in your State as soon as possible.
Danielle Boyce
Don't give up and don't lose hope.
Danielle Boyce
There are a lot of success stories out there. Sometimes it takes time for IS kids. My child started talking at age 4.5. Anything is possible. More and more success stories every day thanks to the clinicians and advocates participating here and #ISAW2015.
patricia mcgoldrick
There is about a 30% reported chance of peripheral visual loss with vigabatrin - we have not seen it in our practice. The risk increases with prolonged use and a monitoring program is in place
Danielle Boyce
My Charlie has been on vigabatrin since 2012 and it has been our miracle. He is monitored every three months. No vision loss whatsoever. I would choose minor peripheral vision loss over damaging spasms. The choices IS parents must make.
Steven Roberds
It's also important that parents understand the risk is peripheral loss, not "blindness"
Susan Hull Jorski
@StevenRoberds I've seen a few parents misunderstand it as blindness.
Danielle Boyce
@StevenRoberds YES. The white paper TS Alliance put out has a great picture that shows what that loss really means and for me, an IS mom, it is NOTHING compared to what can happen if the IS is uncontrolled.
TS Alliance
Here's the white paper for reference: http://www.tsallianc...
patricia mcgoldrick
I think the more education the better - we also need to stress the importance of overnight video EEGs, prompt treatment.
The spasms may start before the hypsarrythmia starts.
Danielle Boyce
I wish I had pushed for an overnight EEG when we were told he was "cured" based on brief EEG. Two years later, he was still having hypps but only showing on the long EEG.
Susan Hull Jorski
@RyansMom2 I used to do the "what if" - now I try and use our experience to help others.
Danielle Boyce
Yes Susan that's exactly where I am. I don't know if it would have changed his outcome but it might change someone else's outcome so I hope my experiences will help other families!
Susan Hull Jorski
You're a good mom! It's hard not to think of what the outcome could have been.
patricia mcgoldrick
Hi- this is Patty McGoldrick NP and Steve Wolf MD from Mount Sinai in NYC. We are happy to answer any questions or even to do a quick overview!
TS Alliance
What are common misdiagnoses of infantile spasms?
Kari Luther Rosbeck
Thank you and welcome! @ Patty Mcgoldrick and Dr. Wolf, Susan Jorski asked a question posted below. Could you answer that for her?
Danielle Boyce
@tsalliance I was told by our ped that my boy was probably teething. A lot of the families I speak with are told it is acid reflux.
patricia mcgoldrick
Infantile spasms are often mistaken for colic or stomach upset or even "tics"
Susan Hull Jorski
My son's spasms were misdiagnosed for 3 years due to no hyps showing up on EEG.
patricia mcgoldrick
Was this with overnight EEGs?
Danielle Boyce
we were not offered overnight EEG until two years into our IS experience and that was because we switched centers. We were told by first center that hypps were gone but that's because all of our EEGs were so brief.
Susan Hull Jorski
They were scheduled, in-office EEG's. His seizures/spasms would always happen before or after a visit to the dr. I sent videos (he's 17 now so they were VHS) and I'm pretty convinced she never looked at them.
Susan Hull Jorski
He was finally diagnosed when we looked into seizure surgery and had an overnight VEEG.
patricia mcgoldrick
Very important - we always need 24 hour EEGs, preferably with video to time lock the events with the EEG findings
Susan Hull Jorski
Again, thank you! I wish more doctors would follow this protocol.
TS Alliance
What are people's lingering thoughts and questions about IS? How do we raise awareness so that infants in the future get a quick diagnosis and treatment?
Danielle Boyce
General pediatrician and ER doc education is key. Keep raising awareness all year round through our ISAW initiatives.
TS Alliance
Agree wholeheartedly!
TS Alliance
For those not aware, what treatment options are available for infantile spasms?
Susan Hull Jorski
Back when Michael was finally diagnosed he started Vigabatrin (now Sabril) and his spasms stopped with the first dose. This was after trying 8 different medications. He hasn't had a seizure since.
Steven Roberds
Vigabatrin is recommended first-line therapy for infantile spasms associated with TSC.
Steven Roberds
There are some second-line options in case it doesn't work, but it often works quickly and well.
Danielle Boyce
ACTH is the other first-line treatment usually recommended for infantile spasms not related to TSC.
patricia mcgoldrick
Vigabatrin or ACTH -
TS Alliance
Are there any risks associated with treatment options?
Susan Hull Jorski
For Vigabatrin, we were made aware of the possible loss of peripheral vision, but I understood this to be over a long period of time at a high dose. For us it wasn't an issue - possible loss of PV versus brain damage?
Susan Hull Jorski
Michael took Vigabatrin for 2 years and we haven't noticed any issues with his vision at all.
TS Alliance
A question posed for parents: Seeing your child have a seizure must be really scary. How did you cope and make sure you were doing the right thing?
Danielle Boyce
Yes, at first after diagnosis and I realized it was a seizure he was having it was terrifying. We put together a good seizure management plan with our neuro with a protocol for emergency meds which gave us more confidence.
Anja Knospe
For us we had to watch our daughter have full tonic & clonic seizures at birth, so in comparison IS seemed so "harmless". But they are very scary because you start analyzing every little twitch and move trying to figure out what is what.
TS Alliance
Thanks for sharing your experiences
Anja Knospe
My daughter was diagnosed with a genetic disorder at birth & had and has developmental delays so it took us a while to catch IS. We finally got an EEG & she was diagnosed with IS without hypps. I am wondering if IS without Hypps is as damaging as with?
Susan Hull Jorski
Great question! I was wondering this as well.
Anja Knospe
Our neurologist told us that in her experience children that have IS without the hypps have a more favorable outcome. This is not your experience then?